[kwlug-disc] The sweet(?) smell of power supplies

Mon Apr 7 19:55:05 EDT 2014

That becomes almost cronable, then. As mentioned, serious horsepower 
elsewhere.

Figure out the edit points via laptop over the net. Say render on the 
box itself. Be it by instruction to remote server, ssh, or vnc.

On 14-04-07 12:02 PM, Darcy Casselman wrote:
> The primary use case she's building for is for render jobs that take 3+
> days on her current (admittedly 12-year-old) machine.  She's not looking
> for a low-power machine.
>
> Darcy.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:34 AM, CrankyOldBugger
> <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> What if she mounted shares on a NAS box instead of local HDDs?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7 April 2014 11:32, Darcy Casselman <dscassel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 1TB isn't nearly enough.
>>>
>>> More like 8.
>>>
>>> Darcy.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:21 AM, L.D. Paniak <
>>> ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   OK.  What amount of disk capacity are we talking about? Anything up to
>>>> 1TB can be done today for a reasonable amount of coin on SSD.
>>>> What are the interfaces for specialized hardware?  PCIe? Interface count?
>>>>
>>>> I suspect you can build a remarkably fast system inside of 150W with a
>>>> bit of research.  Intel E3-series v3 Xeons/Haswell CPUs pack a pile of
>>>> performance into 60-80W - at a decent price.  Especially if the software
>>>> uses recent instruction extensions eg AVX.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/07/2014 11:09 AM, Darcy Casselman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   I'd agree, but she wants to do video and audio rendering.  She needs
>>>> multiple spinning platter harddrives and some specialist video capture and
>>>> sound hardware.
>>>>
>>>>   I was able to talk her down from needing a 750W+ power supply (she
>>>> doesn't need 3D graphics at all), but yeah, something in the 500W
>>>> neighbourhood is more reasonable.
>>>>
>>>> Darcy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:56 AM, L.D. Paniak <
>>>> ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree.  I have been using pico-PSU/AC brick solutions on systems up to
>>>>> 100W with great success.  For 95%+ of computing that more than enough to
>>>>> get the job done.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are many "mini-systems" of this type available:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.canadacomputers.com/search_result.php?checkVal0=0&subcat04=5&checkVal1=1&checkVal2=1&checkVal3=1&checkVal4=1&checkVal5=1&checkVal6=1&checkVal7=1&checkVal8=1&checkVal9=1&pagePos=0&keywords=&manu=0&search=1&ccid=1203&cPath=7_1203
>>>>>
>>>>> Especially good are the Intel NUC series (if a little more expensive).
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently bought a 430W Corsair ATX PSU and the smell of the fancy
>>>>> paint finish nearly knocked me off my feet.  It took several days to
>>>>> dissipate. I am not sure what the motivation is here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/07/2014 10:44 AM, Jason Locklin wrote:
>>>>>> Just for fun, this would be approximately the best you can do while
>>>>>> staying safely under 150Watts and staying reasonably priced:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO
>>>>>>> Price breakdown by merchant:
>>>>> http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO/by_merchant/
>>>>>>> Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO/benchmarks/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CPU: Intel Core i3-2120T 2.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($160.80 @
>>>>> Amazon Canada)
>>>>>>> Motherboard: MSI H67MA-E35 (B3) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
>>>>>   ($88.02 @ Amazon Canada)
>>>>>>> Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($79.99 @ Canada
>>>>> Computers)
>>>>>>> Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
>>>>>   ($129.99 @ NCIX)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Total: $458.80
>>>>>>> Estimated Wattage: 109W
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
>>>>>>> (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-07 10:33 EDT-0400)
>>>>>> That would scream running Linux, but would be lacking for gaming. No
>>>>>> idea what Windows needs nowadays though. That website is too much fun.
>>>>>> Now, back to work... right...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon 07 Apr 2014 10:02:49 AM EDT, Darcy Casselman wrote:
>>>>>>> She has rather formidable power requirements, but we were talking
>>>>> about
>>>>>>> whether something like this was available. I'll pass it along.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Darcy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Jason Locklin <
>>>>> locklin.jason at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you thought of building a low-power system with something like
>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> of these:
>>>>> http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104186
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Transformer is sealed in plastic, so no dust/smell from it. Thinking
>>>>>>>> about building a system like this with one of the low-power Haswell
>>>>>>>> chips and an SSD, myself (not for the smell, I just like
>>>>>>>> power-efficient, quiet machines).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 14-04-05 03:56 PM, Darcy Casselman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> PC hardware question, not specific to Linux, but some of you folks
>>>>> may
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> ideas.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My partner has some rather significant allergies and
>>>>> sensitivities.  She
>>>>>>>>> also needs to replace her 12-year-old desktop computer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In general electronics tend to be okay for her, but the power
>>>>> supply
>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>> to be a stumbling block.  New power supplies smell really bad,
>>>>> triggering
>>>>>>>>> her sensitivities.  And they're blowing that bad air into her
>>>>> living
>>>>>>>> space.
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know of a retailer that sells power supplies that
>>>>> she'd be
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>> to crack open a bunch and give them a sniff-test?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there somewhere we can look at used power supplies, preferably
>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> hopefully neutral office environments (rather than, say, the homes
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> smokers or pet owners)?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We're not entirely sure what it is in the power supplies that is
>>>>>>>> triggering
>>>>>>>>> her.  We know that the PVC wiring is bad (I'm not holding out much
>>>>> hope,
>>>>>>>>> but if someone knows of a manufacturer that coats their wires in
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>> other than PVC, that would be very useful to know).  But we've
>>>>> tried a
>>>>>>>>> bunch and haven't come up with much luck.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions would be helpful.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> Darcy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> Jason Locklin
>>>>>>>> http://artsweb.uwaterloo.ca/~jalockli
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