[kwlug-disc] Flash and Java

[Keefer Rourke]

I use Chromium occasionally on my laptop, and (at least on Ubuntu and Arch)
Chromium's pepperflash plugin is a separate package you have to install. It
works pretty well, but I don't have anything to compare it to because I've
never bothered trying anything else.

Cheers,
Keefer
On Aug 24, 2014 2:19 PM, "Kyle Farwell" <kfarwell at member.fsf.org> wrote:

> I use IcedTea for Java, which from my understanding is a variant of
> OpenJDK. I've only had to use it a couple times but it seemed to work
> well.
>
> For Flash I've used Gnash and Mozilla's player in the past but found
> that they had very limited support. I think Chromium includes the
> Pepperflash plugin which I've heard works better than Gnash, but not
> perfectly.
>
> Now I use Linterna Mágica <http://linternamagica.org/> with Gecko, which
> replaces Flash content with normal HTML video that can be played with
> free video plugins (Gecko, Totem, VLC, Xine). I haven't tested it a lot
> as I usually just use mpv or youtube-dl, but it works in a similar way
> (at least to youtube-dl, I'm not sure how mpv works) so it should work
> in nearly all cases.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Kyle Farwell
>
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> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:32:19 -0400
> From: Paul Nijjar <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca>
> To: kwlug-disc at kwlug.org
> Subject: [kwlug-disc] Flash and Java
>
>
>
> In thinking about this refresh with our installers, I am also
> wondering about Java and Flash player for Linux. For years you had to
> install both of these monstrosities if you wanted your users to be
> functional on the Internet. Now it looks like Java is less widely used
> (and the openjdk support in Debian looks pretty good), so there is no
> need to install the Oracle versions.
>
> Flash is more troubling. As far as I can tell there are a bunch of
> websites that will not work in Linux no matter what you do. The 11.2
> version of Flash that Adobe supports is not recognised on certain
> pages. Chromium (or maybe just Chrome?) supposedly had Flash built in,
> but my version of Chromium does not work with most Flash sites.
> I have not tried gnash and friends, but my understanding is that they
> are not ready for prime time either.
>
> Here is a concrete example: the videos on http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca
> . I am probably just being dumb, but I do not know how to trick this
> site into playing videos for me under Ubuntu or Debian. Do you?
> How do you deal with these kinds of situations?
>
> If there is no trick then maybe not installing Flash is the way to go,
> both for ideological reasons and practical ones. I do not have Flash
> installed on my personal laptop, and although there are things I
> cannot consume in most cases I am better off not consuming them.
> (Hello, Vimeo.)
>
> - Paul
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