[kwlug-disc] xmpp.kwlug.org [was: Sharing desktop in Xubuntu]

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 > I haven't had a one-on-one chat with a Google Chat user in the last
 > year unless they were using a third-party XMPP client like Pidgin.

Yes you have - you and I tested this a few (not THAT many?) months back. 
IIRC, Hangouts on Linux / Windows, and Google Talk on Android. (Might 
have Hangouts and Talk backwards on some of those.) My end, that is. 
Forget what you were using, but I believe you started at (Linux/pidgin) 
computer then carried on otherwise with phone, as I did/tested.

I know when I poked at this with my bro not long ago (Mac, 
non-Windows/Linux user), Hangouts worked everywhere, except on his BB 
where only a google talk app was available. Including Hangouts on an 
Android he has. It all worked.

FWIW.

Ah ... none of these were Google WebUI.

And none were Google's Voice & Video thingie which I think was to 
replace talk / webui, but Hangouts took it all over before saturation. 
And Voice & Video was their web 'google phone' skype competitor - fee 
phone calls in states, including to landlines, geo-locked against Canada 
thus far. (Feels like Google is still trying to figure out and implement 
what it wants this to be when it grows up, then Skype purchase happened, 
and the announcement that started this part of this thread. So no 
coherent strategy / response / implementation by Google yet to date?)

Surely there are XMPP room servers out there just as there are IRC 
servers? For what started this, isn't a kwlug room on such as that all 
that's needed rather than our own XMPP server facility? ourproject.org 
comes to mind.

Bob - given your twitter/identi.ca meeting blogging / chatting and 
others video efforts, does XMPP tie in to any of this somewhere / 
somehow? Should this not all be bundled together in some fashion? e.g. 
Is it time for a kwlug BigBlueButton server, not just an xmpp server, or 
something?


On 14-08-29 11:47 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote:
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> I haven't had a one-on-one chat with a Google Chat user in the last
> year unless they were using a third-party XMPP client like Pidgin.
> Seem Google's WebUI doesn't connect to external sites any more...
>
> And today I learned that the non-federated Facebook XMPP chat may be
> going away: http://sn.theru.org/index.php/notice/298122 (I've asked
> for verification, but haven't heard back yet).
>
>
> - --Bob.
>
>
> On 14-08-29 11:03 PM, Chris Irwin wrote:
>>
>> On 08/29/2014 09:33 AM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Bob Jonkman
>>> <bjonkman at sobac.com <mailto:bjonkman at sobac.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What with the demise of Google Chat ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Google Chat is not dead. It is incorporated in Google Hangouts.
>>> Last I checked KDE Telepathy supported Jabber/XMPP, and was able
>>> to chat with Google Talk users.
>>>
>>> The thing that are dropping is server to server XMPP
>>> (federation), not client to server XMPP.
>>
>> One on one chats still work, but group hangouts don't work at all
>> over xmpp.
>>
>>
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