[kwlug-disc] Upstart and systemd

[B. S.]

As I understand it, Debian/Ubuntu is still in a migrating / moving target mode, so all is still in play. i.e. systemd is still a moving / evolving / conquering target.

You bring up a good point / presentation topic, all the various means of service control, including non/root autostarting at/before gui.

Including, for example, x11vnc, calibre server, ipblock gui, nfs, and so on, X ownership at time of execution being 'problematic'. Let alone e.g. ~/.config/autostart vs /etc/X11/Xsession, etc/init vs init.d, with /etc/default and so on.

Seems to me John did aLinux boot process bit as part of some past presentation, but I agree it seems all over the place and a moving target these days. Add in BSDs and global best practices seems hard to discern.

Add in snapshots, be they lvm, zfs, or btrfs, and dmadm &| raid &| encryption (i.e. IIUC a 'pre-fstab' mount of crypttab), and there seems to be a whack of stuff to grok.

Never mind control of such after the fact, be it ssh, rdp, webmin, or vbox/kvm/non- vm - even in a local environment.



----- Original Message -----
> From: William Park <opengeometry at yahoo.ca>
> To: kwlug-disc at kwlug.org
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> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Upstart and systemd
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> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:12:34PM -0500, Joe Wennechuk wrote:
>>  hello.
>>  Has there been a presentation on upstart?                           
> 
> I don't think so.  Everyone is going with systemd, anyways.
> 
> My encounter with Arch and Fedora (both for ARM boards) leaves me still
> confused.  SysVinit was simple.  But, Debian/RedHat made it complicated
> and black art, that systemd can be seen as an improvement.  What we need
> is "back to the basic".
> -- 
> William
> 
> 
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