[kwlug-disc] UPS sized battery purchasing locally?

[CrankyOldBugger]

Would anybody know if these local battery shops carry 18v batteries for
Ryobi powser tools?  I had a lithium die on me over the winter.  Home
Depot's replacement batteries cost more than I paid for the tool that uses
them.



On 1 June 2014 18:24, unsolicited <unsolicited at swiz.ca> wrote:

> I checked in to that, and I concluded replacing the batteries worth it,
> because of the stupid cost of UPS'.
>
> Check canada computers for ups, sort by price, and you'll see units and
> replacement batteries in the column and be able to judge, yourself. My
> conclusion was +$30 to add a ups (that I don't need) to replace.
>
> Especially if, as you say, the batteries that come with them possibly
> being less 'capable' loss leaders in the first place. Don't know that with
> certainty, but have seen that in other products. e.g. cordless phones?
>
> The other thing that bopped me upside the head was that the cheapest ups'
> (to keep a router up over a 2 second power glitch), don't have replaceable
> battery slots. i.e. the need to have such separate compartments is probably
> a non-trivial cost component in the prices seen above.
>
> OTOH, for anyone comfortable with such, opening up such units and swapping
> out the batteries is trivial. *IF* you can find a non-specific, one-off run
> battery not used.
>
> Worst case I found was to buy replacement batteries for $27 (x 3, plus $8
> shipping - digikey). On that basis, seems worth it.
>
> Even better, and the reason for my question, if I can take my unit to a
> local store and find a larger capacity A wise than in there currently, and
> still have it fit. Lots of room in there, and easy enough to dremel a
> couple outthrusts out. But I rather want to see it in my hands before
> purchase. Rather than blindly buy over web.
>
>
> Certainly shipping / weight costs have been a concern in the past. Many
> years ago I bought a Tripp-Lite (cause I wanted pure sine out) from ncix -
> heavy, but worth it - at the time. (SU750XL) i.e. No Canada Computers
> around then.
>
> For this purchase (keeping router up), if I HAD to replace, I would now
> make very sure a very popular battery was being used, so I could just pop
> down to the local store, with some confidence it might actually be in
> stock. Sadly, this probably means I would have to buy an APC piece of ...
>
> [I say that only because APC seems to be cost uncompetitive, especially
> vis a vis the competitive features for the same price it does not have.
> Like pure sine out.]
>
>
> So, in my / this case, I think it worth it. Bonus if I can find something
> local (like Sayal, thanks JJ), but even if not I'll order over the web.
> Bearing in mind these are wee little batteries, 4.02"Lx1.89"Wx2.58"H - so
> I'm not dealing with the battery weight of a real ups, here.
>
> HTH.
>
>
> On 14-06-01 02:39 PM, Ralph Janke wrote:
>
>> My question would be, are those replacement batteries cheaper than
>> a new UPS of the same grade/performance?
>>
>> Those batteries are probably bought by the UPS manufacturers in very
>> high numbers in bulk and hence with steep discounts. The rest of
>> the UPS components' cost should be negligible.
>>
>> Would be interesting to hear from you the difference  in costs when you
>> find something.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On 2014-06-01 12:50, unsolicited wrote:
>>
>>> Turns out my 3 wee little CypberPower 425VA UPS' don't have user
>>> replaceable batteries in them.
>>>
>>> Seems that a number of the low end UPS' (keep your phone / modem /
>>> switch /router up across a brief power glitch), don't have user
>>> replaceable batteries. Who knew!
>>>
>>> In this case, it seems like user replaceable means separate cover /
>>> compartment where one's fingers can't touch any nasty components and
>>> be shocked when stuck in to wrastle with the battery.
>>>
>>> Of course, take the entire cover off and you're good to go.
>>>
>>> Seems the batteries currently in them are very hard to find (one off
>>> for manufacture / model?), but there's lots of space in there for a
>>> larger battery. This one is 4"x2"x3.5" 'ish. Looks like there's room
>>> in there for something as big as about 5"x3"x3".
>>>
>>> Where can such 12V batteries be purchased in K-W?
>>>
>>> Given UPS and replacement battery prices at CanadaComputers, having to
>>> buy new again to replace seems outrageous
>>>
>>> I'm sort of guessing K-W Surplus unlikely, Orion a possible.
>>>
>>> Others?
>>>
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