[kwlug-disc] Any experience with cloudatcost.com VPS?
Chamunks Arkturus
chamunks at gmail.com
Sun Jun 29 12:32:37 EDT 2014
Also I am really loving my DigitalOcean VPS I use it for hosting my groups
mumble and teamspeak servers, On the 512 meg server for 5$/mo
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Chamunks Arkturus <chamunks at gmail.com>
wrote:
> At this point I can no longer recommend CAC I am happy with what I have
> but that doesn't mean in the current time/place I would really recommend it
> now. But if its integration with Fibernetics goes well it may clear things
> up. I have heard some things that I'm not allowed to repeat that make me a
> little concerned but other then that the company by any means does not seem
> in danger of any sort. So that was what I was originally concerned about.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Chris Craig <kwlug.org at ciotog.net> wrote:
>
>> cloudatcost is now part of Fibernetics. They started off as a spin-off
>> project but evidently there were some management issues so they've
>> been brought back in. If you're really interested you could try
>> contacting someone there, but the residential service call centre
>> might not know anything about it.
>>
>> On 27 June 2014 10:03, Charles M <chaslinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Reviving an old thread I thought I'd throw my $0.02 about the current
>> > impression of Cloudatcost.
>> >
>> > I went for one of their Developer 2 packages. When I clicked on the
>> package
>> > a chatbot popped up with something to the effect "Today only use the
>> code
>> > ******** for 50% off." (checking today it's still up). The code didn't
>> work
>> > so I clicked through to the payment screen hoping I would find another
>> place
>> > the code might apply. Normally most vendors I've dealt with have a
>> couple of
>> > screens before final payment, cloudatcost doesn't, so be careful before
>> > placing an order.
>> >
>> > After clicking through I got an email "bill" for the order. I logged in
>> to
>> > the cloudatcost site and found the only payment option is through
>> paypal.
>> > I'm not a fan of paypal/ebay so I sent them a ticket about other payment
>> > methods. I let the ticket sit overnight with no response. The next day
>> I saw
>> > that cloudatcost has a Twitter account so I sent them a DM about the
>> > ticket/payment. No response a day later. It's now been a couple of days
>> with
>> > no reply either method.
>> >
>> > Now I know it's apples and oranges, but when I compare Teksavvy's
>> response
>> > to issues I've had there is a huge difference. First, I have numbers to
>> > call. Second, usually I get a response on my billing within half and
>> hour.
>> > When I've used Twitter to contact Teksavvy I've received almost instant
>> > response (even as late as 8:30pm). I once asked on Twitter if people
>> were
>> > having issues with Teksavvy DSL (not DM or quoting them) and got a
>> response
>> > from a CSR about 30 seconds later. (Turned out Bell was fiddling
>> outside our
>> > building). Even Godaddy, who I'm moving away from, tends to respond
>> within 1
>> > day (and they tend to do better when it comes to billing).
>> >
>> > At this point it looks like I might have to suck it up and create a
>> paypal
>> > account (I don't really want to) to pay the bill. There is an
>> > info at cloudatcost.com I haven't tried yet, but no other contact info.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Chamunks Arkturus <chamunks at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It appears as though things have stabilized a fair bit since my last
>> email
>> >> so maybe its all just simply growing pains but it was a bit of a rough
>> start
>> >> which kind of stinks.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Andrew Sullivan Cant
>> >> <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Where did you hear about the VMWare infrastructure?
>> >>> I know that VMWare itself it built on RedHat, but if cloudatcost is
>> not
>> >>> actually doing much work with FLOSS directly then maybe there is less
>> >>> presentation possibility.
>> >>>
>> >>> Andrew
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 16/12/13 15:56, Chamunks Arkturus wrote:
>> >>> > I've a few services with cloud at cost and as long as you don't mind
>> >>> > that you're probably not going to reach anything near 100% network
>> >>> > uptime or hardware availability these are great. They tend to ship
>> >>> > some
>> >>> > flaky ubuntu server images that require IO timeout tweaks taht help
>> >>> > avoiding kernel panics etc. I'm optimistic that these issues may
>> end
>> >>> > up
>> >>> > leveling out but its definitely a rocky shore right now.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I tried installing a ZNC instance on a 35$ one and its definitely
>> >>> > flaked
>> >>> > out at least once each week for the last couple of months. They're
>> >>> > apparently backed by vmware infrastructure in some way or another.
>> >>> > Their support doesn't respond much at all either so as long as you
>> >>> > don't
>> >>> > mind basically having to re-image the server to solve problems thats
>> >>> > also a small hitch. Granted I'm not an elite sysadmin but I'm doing
>> >>> > what I can to learn and these VPS's are great for the learning curve
>> >>> > and
>> >>> > if you want to have a few little services that arent going to need
>> 100%
>> >>> > uptime but would be nice to have when it feels like the weather's
>> warm
>> >>> > enough to be online then they're great!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Either way because they're technically not a bad idea just like
>> running
>> >>> > a server on your home internet connection is also technically not a
>> bad
>> >>> > idea I will likely keep checking out a few of them for some
>> services I
>> >>> > would use them for but yeah thats my experience this far. Its
>> really a
>> >>> > disheartening start but they seem to be working through it all.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com
>> >>> > <mailto:bjonkman at sobac.com>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I was at a seminar recently where the invited speaker was a
>> vendor.
>> >>> > The
>> >>> > presentation was at a suitably technical level. The problem was
>> not
>> >>> > *enough* self-promotion by the vendor: After a good explanation
>> of
>> >>> > problems and solutions we had to ask "But what products and
>> >>> > services is
>> >>> > your company offering to combat these problems, and at what
>> >>> > prices?"
>> >>> >
>> >>> > No point in having a vendor come in if they're not vending. But
>> I
>> >>> > agree
>> >>> > that product shilling shouldn't overwhelm the presentation.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --Bob.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 13-12-15 10:42 AM, unsolicited wrote:
>> >>> > > Ach. I dunno, there's been some decent ones too. At wwitpro
>> too.
>> >>> > e.g. An
>> >>> > > MS Sharepoint presentation there worked out quite well - they
>> >>> > rose to
>> >>> > > the level of the audience. Rose above newbieness to 'what is
>> this
>> >>> > > beastie' and not much more, because the audience at the time
>> >>> > wasn't
>> >>> > > ready for much more.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > VMware at kwlug was almost as good. Started out VERY sales
>> pitchy
>> >>> > but by
>> >>> > > the end, given the nature of the audience, were getting right
>> >>> > into the
>> >>> > > technical stuff for us. Also an, in the end, good experience.
>> To
>> >>> > me,
>> >>> > > anyways. But it sure didn't start out well.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Perhaps it depends upon what department they come from, and
>> >>> > whether or
>> >>> > > not it's a pre-packaged sales pitch presentation, vs something
>> >>> > from the
>> >>> > > tech. department?
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Part of the problem with both groups is finding the right
>> balance
>> >>> > > between professional development looking to leverage work
>> >>> > environments,
>> >>> > > and non-professional home users looking to expand their
>> >>> > knowledge.
>> >>> > > Particularly that those in the profession live the ecosystem
>> for
>> >>> > many
>> >>> > > hours each day and so bring a lot of background knowledge and
>> >>> > comfort to
>> >>> > > any seminar. While the home user often struggles to comprehend
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > > nature of the rather big ecosystem out there. Easy example is
>> >>> > SANS, and
>> >>> > > fibre, let alone non-default file systems, which the home user
>> >>> > wouldn't
>> >>> > > normally experience. To know it's even out there, let alone
>> its
>> >>> > nature
>> >>> > > or ramifications.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Cloud is an easy example where the latter probably applies for
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > vast
>> >>> > > majority - few in either camp will be directly involved in
>> cloud
>> >>> > > configuration, and I doubt the majority of home users have
>> played
>> >>> > with
>> >>> > > vm's - it taking a certain amount of horsepower to do so, if
>> they
>> >>> > even
>> >>> > > see the point for them in their home environment.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > A less than deeply technical, these are the finer points of
>> >>> > apache ini
>> >>> > > cache configurations in your multi-homed active swap
>> >>> > configuration, vs
>> >>> > > 'what is this beastie' and 'what buying criteria points
>> should I
>> >>> > care
>> >>> > > about and how do I implement them' will likely suit the
>> majority.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > It probably depends upon which department the presenter comes
>> >>> > from?
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > On 13-12-15 06:40 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
>> >>> > >> On Dec 15, 2013 1:04 AM, Andrew Sullivan Cant
>> >>> > >> <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca <mailto:acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca
>> >>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> Me too....I'll try to connect with someone at Fibernetics
>> and
>> >>> > see
>> >>> > >>> where things go.
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> My original thought was an engineering focused
>> presentation, if
>> >>> > >>> that was possible, and not just a sales focused one. It
>> would
>> >>> > seem
>> >>> > >>> more appropriate given the audience.
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> I remember organizing a commercial presentation for kwlug a
>> few
>> >>> > years
>> >>> > >> back. I won't name names because I found the experience
>> wholly
>> >>> > >> unsatisfactory. The company agreed to put on a technical
>> >>> > >> presentation, not a sales pitch. They agreed to take specific
>> >>> > >> technical questions. What they delivered was merely a mind
>> >>> > numbing
>> >>> > >> tech-free sales pitch. and so I do not trust that company at
>> all
>> >>> > for
>> >>> > >> anything. And I do not look forward to having any other
>> company
>> >>> > >> desecrate a kwlug meeting. The experience was horrible last
>> >>> > time.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
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