[kwlug-disc] Internet, Phone lines, TV. There can be only one?

[CrankyOldBugger]

There's hope for us yet: 1 gig internet is coming to Bracebridge:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/1gb-internet-service-offered-to-muskoka-almaguin-municipalities-1.2588775?cmp=rss




On 27 March 2014 07:35, <chaslinux at gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually they have fallen for us, twice over the past couple of years with
> Teksavvy DSL. First there was a price drop then a drop on the dry loop fee.
> All told we pay about 9 bucks less than we did 2 years ago.
>
>
> Blog: http://www.charlesmccolm.com/
> Sent from my cell phone.
>
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> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Internet, Phone lines, TV. There can be only one?
>
> Yes, the concept has been going on for years now - it's called convergence.
>
> Much like the paperless office.
>
> It's why the carriers have been buying content - you need a reason to
> have to buy them, and not merely compete on price for the pipe. (As
> having to compete for only the pipe, based on price, will seriously
> erode their margins. And it has been. Thus their media campaigns and
> fighting tooth and nail every step of the way. Notice we're not much
> talking about tiered price range internet consumption any more -
> ultimately, eventually, and after everyone was exhausted with the issue,
> they lost their battle at the CRTC. So the real danger here is that they
> exhaust everyone, someone like Geist drops the ball / falls asleep at
> the wheel, people stop paying attention, and the incumbents squeak
> something through. And if they do, that squeak will become an
> ear-splitting cacophony. Their squeaks seem based in really big 'go big
> or go home' battles.)
>
> The other battleground is the idea of a 4th national cell/data carrier.
> Solution: Let the newcomer drown, then buy them. Other solution: Buy the
> content so consumers can only mobilely scratch that itch via a long term
> cell/data contract. Note roaming rates dropped, not cell or data costs,
> and price increases happened across the board earlier this year.)
>
> Digital TV and VoIP has made all of this 'just data'. Delivered via the
> internet.
>
> The whole idea of HomePhone / FibeTV is nefarious - they use dedicated
> bandwidth off the same pipe. So much for the arguments that the pipes
> are only so big, or that there's not enough bandwidth for everyone.
>
> Stop the nonsense - just give me my pipe, the WHOLE pipe, at the same or
> lesser cost. I'll worry about what goes over it, myself, thank you very
> much.
>
> Yet, what about those who want a turnkey solution - the traditional TV
> remote they've always had. Not having to worry about whether that signal
> is coming in via satellite, cable, or internet?
>
> I think the outstanding challenge is someone (FOSS, that is) bundling it
> all into a single cohesive, coherent, interface. Which is where Google
> may well come in. Control the interface, control the revenue stream, and
> the advertising opportunities. Thus Google will still have a choke hold
> on what succeeds and what doesn't. You can't be successful if you don't
> get carried.
>
> Prices haven't fallen for TV or phone. Nor do I expect they ever will.
> (But they might not go up as fast as they might otherwise have.) Prices
> for long distance have fallen - due to competition.
>
> I'm not too hopeful about lots of competition in this converged world.
>
> Paperless Office? Still waiting. Convergence? Still waiting. My lifetime
> ... probably not.
>
>
> On 14-03-26 03:26 PM, Colin Mackay wrote:
> > So the recent thread about voicemail got me wondering about the big three
> > 'communications' portals in our lives.
> >
> > The recent upstarts of IPTV, the voip options and all the radio online...
> > is this the beginning of the traditional models starting to coalesce into
> > one?  It was always thought, or at least *I* always thought, that we'd
> > eventually have a single service come into the home and provide all
> > communications, be it one way or two way.
> >
> > Until recently, I never really thought about it.  Makes me wonder what
> the
> > big guys will do when all they offer is internet services and we have the
> > ability to get our TV, phone and radio all through 3rd parties.
> >
> > Does anyone think prices for TV will fall, as they have for phone?
>
>
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