[kwlug-disc] What is all this about systemd?

[Darcy Casselman]

Condorcet is a ranked ballot, and it's a favourite of voting system nerds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_method

There are lots of reasons why "choosing one of N options" is a terrible
voting system, but that's beyond the scope of this mailing list.  But I
encourage you to ask Bob sometime. :)

Darcy.

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:49 PM, William Park <opengeometry at yahoo.ca> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 04:31:06PM -0500, Hubert Chathi wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:26:06 -0500, Ralph Janke <txwikinger at ubuntu.com>
> said:
> >
> > > I think one big issue (like with lots of things in Democracy) is the
> > > way the vote has been set up. Besides, that it does not make sense
> > > that all 4 options pass majority, ... Option 1 and 2 (Mandatory /
> > > Recommended not to require one init system) should be seen in context,
> > > so if I read the numbers right, Option 1 & Option 2 together had more
> > > votes than option 4 (no GR required)
> >
> > I think that you are misunderstanding the voting system that Debian
> > uses.  Debian uses a Condorcet method, which can be seen as a
> > simultaneous pairwise vote on all the options.  In essence, each vote
> > encodes the voter's preference between any to options.  The winner is
> > the option that wins all the pairwise votes.  So you cannot add the
> > numbers for two options together to compare to a third option, because
> > the voting method already compares each pair of options together.  i.e.,
> > the voting method already determined that option 4 is preferred over
> > option 1, and option 4 is preferred over option 2.  If you try to add
> > votes together, you would be counting some votes (i.e. any vote that
> > ranks both option 1 and option 2 above FD) twice.
> >
> > It's a pretty awesome voting system, and once you get used to it,
> > everything else seems suboptimal.
>
> You just lost me.  I don't understand why you need 2D table for vote.
> I thought voting is choosing one of N options.
> --
> William
>
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