[kwlug-disc] OT: Teksavvy DSL plans

Thu Jan 29 12:54:24 EST 2015

Agreed. Modems/gateways have died no more or less frequently on cable 
than on DSL. If there's a spike of the sort you're talking about, it 
will be coming down the electrical (likely), not the twisted pair or 
cable - so you're equally at risk either way. Let alone the twisted pair 
carries a constant 45V all on its own. I can't even remember the last 
modem that died - which means it was on DSL, not cable. Excluding, as 
Khalid says, tech / speed upgrades.

Acanac seamlessly switched to two weeks ago now. Free phone (if I 
cared), vpn, remote sh, 100GB ftp ... not much to not like. (Except 
their forums, that is.)

DSL will just never have the speed cable does. To blame DSL for 
anything, regardless of the provider, is just pointless. It's just not 
gonna do it ... in this day and age of more and more traffic 
consumption, faster and faster computers, and higher and higher 
expectations. Merely the amount of refreshes from google or 
theweathernetwork is depressing.

Add VoIP or streaming (consuming ~5Mbps by itself, on a max. 5Mbps 
technology) ... and you're just beat.

I get the Rogers issues (heck, just got notice they're going to kill my 
PVR / basic analog cable, Feb. 17th - only $500 for a new device if I 
stay with them to 'fix' what ain't broken) ... but at least I can tweak 
their tail by using a reseller instead.

Curious coincidence for that notice on a Monday, having just switched 
internet the prior Friday. Zazeen, the only other true local PVR I know 
of, becomes an option with basic/analog TV being killed.

On 01/20/2015 08:44 AM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> I was with Rogers for around 13 or 14 years, and about 8 months now with a
> Rogers reseller.
>
> Never ever had a modem burn or die for any reason.
>
> They replaced modems when they upgraded the service (higher speeds require
> newer modems), but that was about it.
> On Jan 20, 2015 8:13 AM, "Dan Hergott" <143news at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've thought about switching to Internet over cable.  However I have found
>> that several people I know who have Rogers cable for Internet have their
>> modems die on a regular basis.  Not too big of a deal for them as Rogers
>> replaces the cable modem for free.
>>
>> However if you're not using Rogers as your ISP  over cable you have to
>> generally purchase your own cable modem.    Having to purchase a new cable
>> modem when a large, voltage modem killing spike comes down your Rogers
>> cable line would be too expensive for myself to deal with.
>>
>> I've been running my DSL modem  for 8 years or more without problems and
>> the 6meg speed is fast enough for myself and my wife to use for our needs.
>>
>> My wife and I will never deal with Rogers again.
>>
>> Dan Hergott
>>
>>
>> On 15-01-20 12:02 AM, B.S. wrote:
>>
>>> But Bell's FTTN is changing that equation. Essentially, bringing that 5km
>>> distant endpoint to your local neighbourhood.
>>>
>>> Regardless, Bell will never be able to deliver speeds that cable does, as
>>> Khalid points out. And ignore Roger's 'hybrid fibre' marketing nonsense -
>>> in the end, what matters is the connection media actually coming in to your
>>> residence. With Roger's, that's cable, with Bell, that's twisted pair -
>>> unless and until one or the other brings in actual Fibre. Until then, cable
>>> will win out. Add in voip.ms and you can toss Bell / twisted pair.
>>>
>>> I've just / am going through this right now - Acanac is a better deal
>>> than Vmedia now - let alone with the current $20/month 1st 3 months deal.
>>> And their TV solution, should you ever go to it, is all channel local PVR,
>>> not a some channels PVR to the cloud nonsense of Vmedia. And looks like TV
>>> offerings of any non-netflix type is going to be tied to ISP provider for
>>> some time to come. e.g. Rogers shomi is tied to having their internet.
>>>
>>> My switchover to Acanac is to occur next weekend; modem already received.
>>> No visit supposed to be necessary. I didn't opt for TV at this time. Still
>>> have / am satisfied with basic (analog) cable TV - but once/if Rogers ever
>>> forces me off that (killing my Pioneer PVR in the process) I may look at
>>> Zazeen again. Thus my current investigation as to whether or not XBMC /
>>> Plex / etc. can duplicate my current basic cable needs turnkey like. (No,
>>> not a presentation.) I'm trying to watch LESS TV, not more! Argh.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/15/2015 08:37 AM, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Remember DSL is subject to how far you are from the Bell switch.  5km is
>>>> about as far as you can get without serious speed degradation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu Jan 15 2015 at 1:02:14 AM Marius Kintel <marius at kintel.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   On Jan 14, 2015, at 07:22 AM, Dan Hergott - newsletter email <
>>>>> dhuwnews at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Charles:
>>>>>> I am not sure what the upload is on the DSL 25 plan, but it is only
>>>>>>
>>>>> 1Mb/s on the DSL15 plan.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I’m on the Teksavvy DSL 25 plan and get 10 up.
>>>>>
>>>>> According to Bell, this is theoretically impossible. Needless to say,
>>>>> I’m
>>>>> a customer of the company with the better theories ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>    -Marius
>>>>>
>>>>>
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