[kwlug-disc] Website Wishlist

[William Park]

I think it comes down to money and time, ie. no money and no time. Legacy and inertia are expensive to change. Remember, this is all free and we're all volunteers. 
-- 
William 
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  Original Message  
From: B. S.
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 1:46 PM
To: KWLUG discussion
Reply To: KWLUG discussion
Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Website Wishlist

Aren't both of you going at this backwards, and cart before the horse? Choosing the technology before defining the content, or asking what should change before defining what it should be?

How about answering "What is www.kwlug.org to be?" first. Get group consensus (in person) first - 'tis a hard thing to do via e-mail. [In a laptop building like event, outside of the regular kwlug meetings.]

The rest will follow.

Let alone ... I believe that readers of this list largely don't use the web site. (Being 'technical' they satisfy most of their desires in other ways.) Which is all to say, shouldn't the desired audience of the web site first be identified? As they are more the users of the effort, than those on this list? [This is also chicken and egg - list readers would use the site more if <xyz>?] Khalid's comments to (have him?) summarize the access logs to categorize users seem prudent. Never mind "So who do we want to attract? To what end? How to be effective in doing so?"


The one thing that does seem apparent to me, from the history of www.kwlug.org and the surrounding technological change that has occurred over even its lifetime ... we've long passed the point where any one technology is going to satisfy everything in one go. Except perhaps for groupware, which hasn't even been mentioned thus far. Blogs, news, feeds (both in and out, a/v and rss), IM, and any amount of other niftyness, all have seemed desirable at one point in time. Almost like kwlug.org should be considered as merely a domain name or hub, to which multiple 'plugins' are attached. Be it twitter feed, youtube channel, and so on and so forth.

So maybe it shouldn't be a matter of migrating from here to there, but start fresh, with plugins and pointers to current content until and unless that content is migrated. Just another plugin.

And maybe the choice of technology comes down to the environment's plugin richness. Then each aspect can choose best of breed, and dots connected.

This seems to be what's going on, anyways - those with a particular interest focus on it. A/V can worry about A/V without having to encompass all of kwlug.org, twitter, blog, news, the same. And people like Paul can hand off responsibility for entire functionalities to those engaged in particular aspects, simplifying his own life in the process?



----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Nijjar <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca>
> To: KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 1:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Website Wishlist
> 
> 
> Come on, folks. So far it seems that the answer to the questions of 
> 
> - What is working?
> - What is not working?
> - What changes do you feel should be made?
> 
> is "the website is too dynamic, so please make it static and also set
> up a Gitlab instance to host the git repository to which you hand out
> keys"?
> 
> Clearly I did not frame the questions clearly enough.
> 
> - Paul 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 12:09:10AM -0400, Andrew Sullivan Cant wrote:
>> Oh dear, I think that I might have brainwashed Bob with talk of static web 
> sites. :)
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