[kwlug-disc] Cross Platform Messaging Clients
Peter Melse (Mobile)
peter_melse at gto.net
Fri May 13 11:25:57 EDT 2016
Perhaps this is something we can solve as a group.
>From my recent experiences, (if not cross protocol) lync has a third party client that works nicely on Android, iOS, and Linux.
Keeping federation, and our oss roots in mind, self-hosted ejabberd might be a reasonable option.
In addition to what Bob said about SMS. There is no guarantee of delivery, the TTL is usually 5 days, and wind (especially wind away) gets QoSed out of existence often. (At one point I was only getting 20% of incoming calls, and no sms!)
On May 13, 2016 11:03:28 AM EDT, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>So ultimately, the answer to my question is "no"....
>
>I suppose that Pidgin is the best best for cross-platform and
>cross-protocol, but as it was pointed out earlier, this can a bit of a
>moving target. The "walled gardens" are still unwilling to play nice.
>
>All things being equal, I'd be happy to try out a locally made app
>(like
>Kik), but we still have people on IRC, some on Google, some on Skype,
>etc.
>
>Well, I will crawl back into my hole in the ground and wait another
>decade
>before asking my question again...
>
>
>On Fri, 13 May 2016 at 10:58 Jason Locklin <locklin.jason at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 13/05/16 10:41 AM, Andrew Kohlsmith (mailing lists account) wrote:
>> >> Pidgin and the like have always been a bit of an unstable mess
>with
>> >> all the constantly changing, underlying protocols that they need
>to
>> >> support (that said, I do still use Bitlbee for XMPP, Twitter, and
>> >> Facebook).
>> >
>> > There is an important distinction here I think that needs to be
>made.
>> >
>> > Pidgin has been a bit of an unstable mess because the underlying
>> protocols it’s trying to unify are obfuscated, undocumented and
>change
>> without warning.
>> >
>> > XMPP has always worked. IRC has always worked.
>> >
>> > Google Hangouts stopped federating for a while, but now they seem
>to be
>> federating again. No official word on changing their stance, but
>maybe a
>> glimmer of hope.
>> >
>> > All this walled-garden “gotta try to trap the users in our specific
>app”
>> is terribly frustrating and reminds me of the old MSN/ICQ/Y!
>messaging wars.
>>
>> True, but it's never been terribly good at IRC. Dedicated IRC and
>XMPP
>> clients have generally been quicker to implement new features and
>> support old ones consistently. It's a big load trying to support many
>> protocols *and* keeping the UI functioning well.
>>
>>
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