[kwlug-disc] Secure IM news

[Nick Guenther]

One of the most interesting options in that direction: https://ricochet.im/. https://www.imperialviolet.org/2013/11/10/pond.html is also an option. maybe.

Also, about universal p2p systems: that was one of the basic ideas underneath Urbit, which might be a better long term solution if it ever gets off the ground.

Le 26 novembre 2016 18:17:55 HNE, Jason Locklin <locklin.jason at gmail.com> a écrit :
>The nice thing about a federated system is that p2p is just a special
>case, and one can become the other when the hardware makes it
>realistic. The chatsecure guys were talking about this a while back
>where they suggested that every device could be its own xmpp server,
>perhaps using tor for persistent routing and privacy. 
>
>On November 26, 2016 3:54:07 PM EST, Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>A fully p2p system is the best system, but it would have to be based
>on
>>something like DHTs so that offline messaging could work;
>>
>>This would be ideal except on mobile battery is at a premium so good
>>luck
>>telling people they need to contribute cycles to a dht
>>
>>On Sat, Nov 26, 2016, 1:24 PM Nick Guenther <nguenthe at uwaterloo.ca>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 26 novembre 2016 12:25:40 HNE, "B. S." <bs27975 at gmail.com> a
>écrit
>>:
>>> >> it would be ideal that we try and find a system that they can't
>>have
>>> >> one centralized location to squat in and collect our metadata.
>>> >
>>> >Does that not exist already in Tor?
>>> >
>>>
>>> Only if all the servers you use are .onion hidden services. If you
>go
>>from
>>> exit nodes to talk.google.com you made as little progress as using
>>Tor to
>>> access Facebook.
>>> A fully p2p system is the best system, but it would have to be based
>>on
>>> something like DHTs so that offline messaging could work; this was
>>tox's
>>> idea, but I do not trust their code quality one bit; maybe they've
>>gotten
>>> better in the years since their founding.
>>>
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