[kwlug-disc] [kwlug-announce] Meeting Monday: Saltstack, XMPP, IRC (June 2017)

Chamunks chamunks at gmail.com
Mon Jun 5 11:15:02 EDT 2017


I didn't even think about it but I could have talked about how we've abused
salt for our needs. Grumble...

On Sun, Jun 4, 2017, 5:17 PM B.S. <bs27975.2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 06/03/2017 02:41 AM, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-announce wrote:
> >
> > In this world of spinning up virtual machines on demand, the concept
> > of configuration management -- specifying a server's configuration
> > in some text-editable, version-controllable files and deploying them
> > to new machines easily -- is pretty popular. Who knew? In the past
> > we have had presentations on Puppet and Ansible; this month we will
> > get salty. Nathan Fish has been working extensively with the Salt
> > (aka SaltStack) configuration management system at his work, and he
> > has lots of lessons to share...
>
> The need for common configuration across machines has recently become
> itchier for me. So far I've only had time to do some wikipedia and other
> page reading. I see out there, at least, anisble, chef, cfengine,
> puppet, salt, and many others if only in passing, e.g. otter.
>
> I had made a mental note to myself to check further into Salt - nice
> timing for SaltStack (?) information.
>
> Any amount of info seeking quickly has one realizing this is all the
> thin edge of a much larger wedge. Configuration is one thing -
> maintenance, confirmation, inventory, monitoring, being others. Clearly
> my own personal infrastructure is lacking in many areas. It certainly
> isn't clear to me where the starting point / logical sequence of steps
> begins.
>
> One thing I came across in my browsing was
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFEngine) "Rather than describing the
> steps needed to make a change, CFEngine language describes the final
> state in which one wants to end up. The agent then ensures that the
> necessary steps are taken to end up in this "policy compliant state".
> Thus, CFEngine can be run again and again, whatever the initial state of
> a system, and it will end up with a predictable result. CFEngine
> supports the item of statistical compliance with policy, meaning that a
> system can never guarantee to be exactly in an ideal or desired state,
> rather one approaches (converges) towards the desired state by
> best-effort, at a rate that is determined by the ratio of the frequency
> of environmental change to the rate of CFEngine execution."
>
> The idea of describing where you want to get to, not a script to take
> you from wherever you are to where you want to go, makes intuitive
> sense. How to incorporate that approach into a tool ... not so much.
>
> Looking forward to this and Bob.
>
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