[kwlug-disc] Ubuntu 17.10

Thu Oct 19 14:16:43 EDT 2017

Yes, XFCE is more than adequate. It is functional and slim. Checks all
the boxes. No need for fancy stuff.

I am using it on a 2013 Dell Latitude Core i5 CPU. Also on some others,
like a 2009 Toshiba Satellite (my main laptop until a few months ago),
and an HP. Nothing fancy.

Pro tip: install the package apticron if your laptop can send you email
(that requires postfix and s-nail, but may as well require that you have
your own domain server elsewhere to forward emails properly).

That way, when there is a security release for any of the packages that
are installed on your machine (server or laptop), you get an email, and
you can update when you can.

On 10/19/17, Ron Singh <ronsingh149 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ditto here. I've only been in the Linux world for 9 months now.
> Distro-hopped for about 3 months, and only in the last 6 months have
> settled to what I am very happy with, namely, LinuxMint 18.1 Xfce.
> Clean clean clean desktop, on 4.4 LTS of the Linux kernel and security
> patches promised to early 2021.  My hardware profile is modest at
> Thinkpads, using 2nd gen Intel CPUs, X220,T420s, T410s, W520.
>
> I do weekly grinding though various LTS, rolling releases and even some
> bleeding distros in a Virtualbox VM, only to to find that LM 18.1 Xfce to
> be the most reliable and memory/energy efficient OS that I have ever used,
> well, at least in the last 6 months.
>
> Gnome and KDE makes me really angry for putting up walls for me in terms of
> accessibility, Mate is quite gentle on the nerves, but I find Xfce to be
> closest to the way I want to interact with a desktop interface, quickly and
> intuitively.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron Singh
> "in transit, via mobile comm device"
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:
>
>> That is exactly my strategy.
>>
>> I learned a lesson the hard way around 10 or so years back when
>> I upgraded from an LTS to a non-LTS release, and got broken things
>> on KDE that almost drove me off from it then. Early this year I
>> switched from KDE to XFCE after I upgraded to 16.04 (one year
>> after it came out), and never looked back.
>>
>> Ever since, I only stick with LTS releases, and life has been easier
>> that way.
>>
>> Even with LTS, I tend to watch until at least the first .1 release
>> comes out and the main kinks ironed out.
>>
>> Preserves your sanity that way.
>>
>> On 10/19/17, L.D. Paniak <ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com> wrote:
>> > Is there anything compelling in 17.10 that I cannot get in 16.04 with
>> HWE?
>> > It is to the point where I am ignoring non-LTS releases in general.
>> >
>> > On 10/19/2017 12:54 PM, Keefer Rourke wrote:
>> >> I'm currently running Fedora 27 beta, and I'm really disappointed with
>> >> GNOME 3.26.1 until recently, Mutter would crash any time you closed a
>> >> maximized (or half-tiled) window. For a "stable" release, GNOME is
>> >> hugely disappointing.
>> >>
>> >> The bugs in *vanilla* GNOME have been show-stoppers for the final
>> >> release of Fedora 27 -- I'm honestly surprised that Canonical decided
>> >> to release 17.10 with the current state of things.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Keefer
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 2017-10-19 at 15:27 +0000, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
>> >>> And a reason why I like to test new stuff out via virtual machines,
>> >>> not real boxes!
>> >>>
>> >>> I had to submit two bug reports in the first few minutes.  But now it
>> >>> seems to be running a bit better after another reboot..
>> >>>
>> >>> What can I say about it?  If you ignore the bright orange background
>> >>> and the dock, it looks just like Fedora GNOME or any other GNOME.  It
>> >>> will be interesting to see how Canonical keeps us interested in their
>> >>> desktop product if it's just like anybody else's.
>> >>>
>> >>> Or maybe they'll just focus on the stuff they do well, like MaaS and
>> >>> server and docker, etc.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 at 11:22 Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com
>> >>> <mailto:kb at 2bits.com>> wrote:
>> >>>> On 10/19/17, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
>> >>>> <mailto:crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>> > I just downloaded the new Ubuntu 17.10 and installed it in a
>> >>>> > virtual
>> >>>> > machine (virtualbox on a Windows host).
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > So far, it's interesting, but I'm sure I don't need to remind the
>> >>>> people
>> >>>> > here to not drop a brand new release on a production box.  In
>> >>>> other words,
>> >>>> > I've come across quite a few bugs so far...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> One more reason I stay with LTS releases, and only after the .1
>> version
>> >>>> of them comes out.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Khalid M. Baheyeldin
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2bits.com, Inc.
http://2bits.com
Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. --  Edsger W.Dijkstra
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. --   Leonardo da Vinci