[kwlug-disc] Remoting into GNOME desktop

Thu Sep 7 21:07:42 EDT 2017

I remember my brother Michael and I installing FreeBSD (around 1998/9)
from floppy on my IBM Butterfly Laptop (701c if I remember correctly).
We got to about floppy 42 and it was bad, doh!

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 9:08 PM, CrankyOldBugger
<crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
> You're forgetting the dictionary pack...
>
> On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 at 11:26 Stuart Seeley <stuart at lowlevel.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Believe WordPerfect 5.1 was 11 DSDD 5 1/4" floppies...
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:20 AM, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> You shouldn't encourage someone named Cranky...
>>
>>
>> Cranky, who fondly remembers installing Word Perfect 5.1 with 36
>> floppies...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 at 09:18 Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:
>>>
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>>> Hi Charles! Thanx, but it wasn't really a tech support question, more
>>> a reminiscence of how easy it used to be, meant as encouraging words
>>> for Cranky...
>>>
>>> - --Bob, who probably has Novell branded CDs around here somewhere
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2017-08-29 09:00 AM, Charles McColm wrote:
>>> > If you really want to know Bob I have my boxed SuSE Pro 9.2 still
>>> > sitting at work ;-) You're welcome to borrow it for awhile. I loved
>>> > 9.2, but remember 9.3 really felt bloated.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > To: KWLUG discussion Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Remoting into GNOME
>>> > desktop
>>> >
>>> > I wonder what SUSE was using cira v9.3 -- I remember setting up X
>>> > sessions to be accessed by VNC. Fairly simple, as I recall, just
>>> > adding a couple of lines similar to 'x1: vnc=1024x768' to the X
>>> > display config file...
>>> >
>>> > --Bob.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 2017-08-28 04:24 PM, Jeff Smith wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Some new news on this issue:
>>> >
>>> >> https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop
>>> >>
>>> >> [https://ctrl.blog/wp-content/uploads/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop-sharing-1072x603.png]<https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop>
>>> >
>>> >>  Remote desktop capabilities set to make a comeback in GNOME on
>>> >> Wayland<https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop>
>>> >> ctrl.blog Work on new Mutter APIs and Remote Desktop service
>>> >> enable screen recording and remote desktop in GNOME under
>>> >> Wayland.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> It seems that a) I'm not losing my mind and GNOME/Wayland does
>>> >> not in fact currently have VNC baked in, and b) they are working
>>> >> on fixing that (the Wayland VNC thing, not my mental health).
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> ________________________________ From: kwlug-disc
>>> >> <kwlug-disc-bounces at kwlug.org> on behalf of Khalid Baheyeldin
>>> >> <kb at 2bits.com> Sent: 18 August 2017 12:19 To: KWLUG discussion
>>> >> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Remoting into GNOME desktop
>>> >
>>> >> There was a recent thread here in response to a similar question
>>> >> that I asked.
>>> >
>>> >> I tried VNC, but it is very slow.
>>> >
>>> >> NoMachine worked fine. There are .deb packages that you install
>>> >> using gdebi and they work seamlessly. Little network overhead
>>> >> and very responsive.
>>> >
>>> >> On 8/18/17, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> With the upcoming changes to Ubuntu (GNOME and Wayland), and
>>> >>> with the current similar state of Fedora and other distros, has
>>> >>> anyone given any though as to how to remote into a system such
>>> >>> as these and remotely controlled the desktop (similar to RDP,
>>> >>> VNC, etc.)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm trying to plan out how I can contact my machines once I
>>> >>> upgrade the Ubuntu boxes, as well as the ones currently
>>> >>> running Fedora 26.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It seems that my current solution of VNC or X11VNC over SSH
>>> >>> isn't going to work once they move from X to Wayland.  Sure, I
>>> >>> could drop back to X, but I wanted to see how we can do this
>>> >>> like it says in the brochure...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From what I've seen so far, we're going to really rock the
>>> >>> remote connectivity boat when we switch to Wayland, and the
>>> >>> next version of Ubuntu is supposed to do just that.  As of
>>> >>> right now, I am unable to bring up my personal laptop's Fedora
>>> >>> 26 desktop remotely because I haven't been able to find a
>>> >>> Wayland solution.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Connecting to Ubuntu Unity desktops is easy with SSH and VNC
>>> >>> (using TigerVNC in most cases).  But from what I understand,
>>> >>> VNCserver (and its variants) does not support Wayland, only X.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So what we need is:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> SSH tunnel (or a similarly secure GUI connection) a
>>> >>> Wayland/GNOME ready GUI presentation. An "always-on" connection
>>> >>> that doesn't depend on someone being logged on at the server
>>> >>> end (for example, if I reboot the server remotely I still want
>>> >>> to come back and see a GUI logon.  AFAIK you can't do this with
>>> >>> Vino.)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> And of course, ways to achieve this using a client that's
>>> >>> either Linux or Windows (for those of us forced to use Windows
>>> >>> at work....)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> -- Khalid M. Baheyeldin 2bits.com, Inc. http://2bits.com Drupal
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>>> >> Vinci
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