[kwlug-disc] I found a decent space for us if we want it.

Sat Apr 21 17:05:35 EDT 2018

Thanks Khalid,
It is certainly worth adding into our list of possible locations, if the
other space does not work out.

Did you, or anyone, see a link or contact for how to talk to about using
the space?

Andrew

On 2018-04-17 12:47 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> This is in the news today: Google has a space at their building free
> for community events.
> 
> Anyone working there and knows more about it?
> 
> Worth exploring as an alternative venue?
> 
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/google-stem-community-space-kitchener-1.4622958
> 
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't see any reason why I wouldn't be able to commit but I'm going to
>> definitely take a look into seeing if I can't convince Kapley into letting
>> us have three registered people.  It looks like some simple copy & pastes in
>> the Terms of Service Agreement for the space.
>>
>> I'm dealing with a bunch of stuff in my AFK world which are making my side a
>> bit slower than I initially anticipated but I should be able to have the
>> next step taken by the end of next week.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 9:07 AM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc
>> <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> So maybe this is a little strong. We definitely need at least one
>>> volunteer to be present at every meeting, since we cannot share
>>> biometrics around. But I am wary of saying "must commit to attend to
>>> most meetings" because that quickly turns into "commit to attend about
>>> half the meetings" and then we are in trouble. There really is some
>>> kind of commitment involved.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, there are other roles at KWLUG which require far
>>> less commitment. It would be nice to have some help with those tasks.
>>>
>>> - Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:04:04PM -0400, Paul Nijjar wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As I wrote privately to Chamunks: since there are only two people
>>>> allowed the volunteers need to commit to attending every meeting.
>>>> Otherwise if neither shows up we are out of a space.
>>>>
>>>> - Paul
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:14:58PM +0000, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
>>>>> It looks like you have a fine pair of volunteers, but if you need a
>>>>> spare
>>>>> backup redundant extra person, pencil my name in.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 at 23:13 Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, so there's a contract and a limitation of 2 biometrics
>>>>>> members.  I
>>>>>> might be able to convince Kapley the building owner into three of us
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> seems like there is a bit of a disparity between what Stephanie
>>>>>> Goertz(spelling?) want out of it or are able to do.  I have a
>>>>>> difficult
>>>>>> time accepting less than my goals at times.  Do we feel comfortable
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> paperwork?  If so I can upload a PDF out of the list to you two with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> document I have here scanned via my android.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 5:23 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant <
>>>>>> acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am happy to get setup as someone who can host, and share
>>>>>>> responsibility for opening then space.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree that a meeting with everyone who would be a host and a
>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>> from the the building I a good way to start. We can learn about
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> the space. Also hopefully make sure that we are all clear on what
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> building owners are getting out of this arrangement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we try it and it works, maybe we can explicitly book it for all
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> dates in 2018.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2018-03-09 6:39 PM, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:i
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there anybody else in the group who would be interested in
>>>>>>>> being a
>>>>>>>> host for the group? This would involve setting up for meetings,
>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>> present, and shutting down. I guess it also means being scanned
>>>>>>>> biometrically?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There may also be duties with scheduling speakers and helping
>>>>>>>> them get
>>>>>>>> ready for the meeting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would be good to have Colin, me, and at least two other people
>>>>>>>> willing to take on this role. We should all meet, potentially
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> somebody from the building who could help us book the space.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Paul
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 11:14:26PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
>>>>>>>>> That would be fine by me.  I wasn't sure I was keen on the
>>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>> exactly so I asked and they said they'd hook me up with
>>>>>>>>> biometrics for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> meeting space down the road too. I've also taken the time to
>>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> the property manager as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018, 5:49 PM Paul Nijjar <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Okay. Let's arrange a meeting to figure out the logistics (what
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> need to access the space, who needs to be present to host, what
>>>>>>>>>> arrangements they want, etc). If we can book the space for
>>>>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>>>> months then we can try to meet there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We will also want a set of people who can host the space (who
>>>>>>>>>> are not
>>>>>>>>>> only me).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have some familarity with the Boemher box building, since
>>>>>>>>>> Spectrum
>>>>>>>>>> is there. I have heard mixed reviews of how responsive the
>>>>>>>>>> landlords
>>>>>>>>>> are. I would want assurances that we can book for particular
>>>>>>>>>> days.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The fallback plan to this could remain St John's Kitchen, so
>>>>>>>>>> long as I
>>>>>>>>>> am around and have keys. Boehmer Box is basically across the
>>>>>>>>>> street
>>>>>>>>>> from SJK.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Paul
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:51:45PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it the Boemher Box building.  Which is why I mentioned the
>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> property
>>>>>>>>>>> management and renovations they are reworking the building and
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> section
>>>>>>>>>>> we will be hosted is going to be a well maintained section
>>>>>>> regardless of
>>>>>>>>>>> what happens in the rest of the building.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There's two levels of response.  Free and not free.
>>>>>>>>>>> - So free being we are allowed the space because the property
>>>>>>>>>>> owner
>>>>>>> wants
>>>>>>>>>>> us as a feature in his building and find's the concept
>>>>>>>>>>> exciting.
>>>>>>>>>>> - Not free being we could put up a sign or something
>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning that
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> space is available for people if they wanted to rent a desk in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> co-share
>>>>>>>>>>> space.  Likely just toss in a thanks however there hasn't been
>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> explicit
>>>>>>>>>>> requirements stated about this sort of thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing is free in this world it all costs something however
>>>>>>>>>>> in this
>>>>>>>>>> case I
>>>>>>>>>>> think that the owner of the building is happy with the concept
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>> in the building to help educate and attract people into their
>>>>>>> ecosystem
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> our "cost".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:45 PM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <
>>>>>>>>>>> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the Boemher Box building?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the cost for use of the space?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:22:16PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a space that I've found it's a co-share space next
>>>>>>>>>>>>> door to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Google.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location 1 Photos:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zELtRVgM7XodrNcw2
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location 1 Map Link:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/3YcX4aW8yAq
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location 2 Map Link:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/YQb7jwhihrB2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The location is under new property management since KWARTZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lab was
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Kaplan being on site more often.  The co-share space
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biometric after-hours access for myself and a number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other KWLUG
>>>>>>>>>>>>> members.  This access would be granted for the Co-Share
>>>>>>>>>>>>> space which
>>>>>>>>>> is in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the photos I posted and for the Datacenter office space down
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> road if
>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't able to lock in the co-share space for some reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The co-share space comes with an HD projector which can be
>>>>>>> projected
>>>>>>>>>>>> onto a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> massive white wall so that everyone in the room can see much
>>>>>>>>>>>>> easier
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we've had now.  We would also be able to store our
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>> securely on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> site so that we could have a bit more permanence than we do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ideally, what I was thinking because there is an ISP in the
>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudWiFi and the Co-Share itself has its own WiFi we could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>> up a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> proper streaming setup as well which would be beneficial for
>>>>>>>>>> increasing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attendance of the KWLUG.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We also would have the potential option to maybe talk them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>> letting
>>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use their Meetup account if we don't arrange one for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves
>>>>>>>>>> because I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think one of the biggest things ( that we should discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread if we want to discuss it ) is that we're not on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meetup.
>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>>>>>> are a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of people who rely on Meetup to locate interesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> groups in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> region.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So in abstract,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pros:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - New secure space for us
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Two potential locations in case one is for some reason not
>>>>>>> suitable
>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting here and there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Meetup Account we may not have to moderate ourselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Stable and likely fiber connectivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Full network infrastructure available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - HD Projector.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Large wall for projection screen usage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Quiet and productive environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 24/7 access for core members of KWLUG at two locations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Within a visual range of our current meeting space so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're not
>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving far.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Kitchenette if we wanted to do food for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - A fairly motivated community manager who wears many hats
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who may be interested in helping out with driving the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expansion of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> group.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cons:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - The building is undergoing a fairly significant upgrade so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>> Accessible
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entrance yet but one is planned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Parking may be less convenient than the St. Johns kitchen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> extortionate paid parking seems to be taking up residence in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding streets as of yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Somewhat limited shared parking currently with more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> parking
>>>>>>>>>> planned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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