[kwlug-disc] Linux & Linux admin for newbies

[jim]

I would stay with the 128G ssd as I will be doing one installation on 
it. Then I will show how easy it is to install a different desktop 
environment like Gnome or maybe Mate.

Thanks, Jim


On 01/19/18 17:47, Ron Singh wrote:
> Understandable. The main reason I mentioned the various DEs was simply 
> the fact that most Linux newbies will likely be refugees seeking 
> shelter from the Microsoft storm, but will still be more amenable to 
> making a change to Linux if the change is marginal. I life Xfce for 
> it's simplicity, intuitiveness and it's resemblance to a weird hybrid 
> of XP/W7 desktop. Mein frau likes Mate for it easy of access to just 
> about every program just like Win-XP. Most folks I have worked with on 
> the transition absolutely abhorred Gnome3 and KDE as they feel that 
> too much is "hidden". I think they didn't care for the task/apps 
> ribbons and bars. I tend to agree with them, but I am a certified 
> card-carrying Luddite, so, there it is.
>
> Since Ubuntu is not going to be doing any furthering of  Unity and 
> will be focusing on Gnome3, definitely a showing of 16.04.3 with 
> Gnome3 make sense with a nod to Mate and Xfce.  My experience with 
> openSUSE was abysmal. I would welcome an opportunity to see an install 
> and see how you deal with that nasty software updater and software 
> installer.
>
> I personally went the Mint way and Xfce DE  as I have absolutely 
> control over the various levels of updates since updating for the sake 
> of updaing can sometimes break stuff.
> The way Linux Mint curates their offering and their update mechanism 
> seems to suit my sensibilities perfectly. So far(11 months), no 
> breakage on my production machines, yaaa!
>
> Let me know if I stick with a 128G SSD or pop in the WD 500G 7200RPM HDD.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron Singh
> "in transit, via mobile comm device"
>
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 4:55 PM, James Kelsh <freshmeadow1 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:freshmeadow1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Ron. I plan on keeping it simple. I am going to go through an
>     Ubuntu 16.04.3 installation from my dvd and after showing the
>     Unity desktop, I am going to install the Gnome desktop onto it
>     like I do for my own machines. To much choice in desktop
>     environments may be overwhelming.
>
>      I can mention Mate, LXDE, XFCE etc. and show screenshots from the
>     web maybe, but I will keep it simple and direct.
>
>     Having the X220 for a dry run would be great.
>
>     I may also do an install of openSUSE on my laptop in VMWare to
>     show both a VM install and another Linux distribution.
>
>     Jim
>
>     Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
>     for Windows 10
>
>     *From: *Ron Singh <mailto:ronsingh149 at gmail.com>
>     *Sent: *Friday, January 19, 2018 3:59 PM
>     *To: *KWLUG discussion <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
>     *Subject: *Re: [kwlug-disc] Linux & Linux admin for newbies
>
>     Yup, I will be at the Feb meet.
>
>     I think it might be wise to get the X220 to you before the meeting
>     so that you can do a dry run of the install and make sure all is
>     good before doing the live install at KWLUG's Feb meet? I am in
>     Waterloo and can meet up wherever to hand off the laptop.
>
>     I wonder, since most folks really interact with a PC's desktop
>     environment and browsers, would it be prudent to mebbe stuff a
>     500G HDD in the laptop so that you could have multiple installs of
>     Linux, simply for a presenter to showcase the pros/cons of various
>     desktop environments?
>
>     I cannot justify(afford) storage any greater than a 128G SSD or a
>     500G 7200RPM WD Black HDD, and I think a 128G SSD might be tight
>     if one wanted around 4 installs to show off Xfce, Mate, Cinnamon,
>     Gnome3, or LXDE etc.
>
>     Rambling on a bit further, I wonder if I should not just leave the
>     X220 without whoever will be doing any sort of presenting and who
>     might be reluctant to mess with their own hardware, perhaps that
>     person would benefit from a beater laptop?
>
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Ron Singh
>     "in transit, via mobile comm device"
>
>     On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:24 PM, James Kelsh
>     <freshmeadow1 at gmail.com <mailto:freshmeadow1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Thank you Ron, it will help! That way I font have to overwrite
>         my existing Ubuntu installation!!!!!
>
>         Will you be at the February meeting? We can talk there.
>
>         Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>         On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Ron Singh <ronsingh149 at gmail.com
>         <mailto:ronsingh149 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Jim, I can lend an X220 laptop with 8G and an SSD(to
>             reduce install time and make the presentation go a bit
>             faster) for the bare-metal install if this help in anyway.
>
>
>             Thanks,
>
>             Ron Singh
>             "in transit, via mobile comm device"
>
>             On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:14 AM, James Kelsh
>             <freshmeadow1 at gmail.com <mailto:freshmeadow1 at gmail.com>>
>             wrote:
>
>                 I would be happy to do it in March. I am thinking to
>                 include installation on bare metal from a dvd, USB
>                 stick, and maybe dual booting and installing
>                 from an iso in a VM too.
>                 Let's talk further at the February meeting.
>                 Jim
>
>                 Sent from my iPhone
>
>                 > On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:24 PM, Paul Nijjar via
>                 kwlug-disc <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org
>                 <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>> wrote:
>                 >
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