[kwlug-disc] Linux & Linux admin for newbies
Andrew Sullivan Cant
acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca
Sun Jan 21 17:30:01 EST 2018
FLOSS Weekly recently did an episode on the Open Mainframe project:
https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/466?autostart=false
Interesting those those on the list discussing APL, perhaps. :)
Andrew
On 20/01/18 11:10, jvj at golden.net wrote:
> Going OT with the ancient IBM stuff.
> I skimmed past the S/38 and As/400 and know very little about those
> machines.
> AFAIK The VM capability would let system developers define target
> systems somewhat different than the system used for development.
>
> As a student (circa 1972) I ran Fortran card deck assignments and
> personal APL stuff on the 360 aka 360 sickly.
> A grad student created an APL system function that would read a text
> matrix as a text file containing a card deck.
> When I used this APL function to run Fortran assignments I noted that my
> jobs would bump above other jobs submitted by people who had been
> standing in line for the card deck reader.
> APL - as an interactive subsystem on the 360 - had a higher system
> priority than other jobs, e.g. compiler, assembler, etc.
> My lowly Fortran jobs, submitted through APL, inherited the APL priority.
>
> JohnJ
>
>
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> *Subject:* Re: [kwlug-disc] Linux & Linux admin for newbies
> *Date:* Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:25:19 +0000
> *From:* CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>
> *To:* KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
> *Reply-To:* KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
> @JohnJ... I remember those IBM emulator/VM programs. I had one when I
> was managing a S/38 and later an AS/400. I seem to recall that the PC
> program had a really generic name like "PCTools", but I don't recall
> exactly. Would you remember?
>
>
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 at 01:59 Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc
> <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>> wrote:
>
> (I thought I sent this already, but I guess not. Apologies if it is a
> duplicate.)
>
> That is a generous offer.
>
> There may be a call for people to help KWLUG financially if we cannot
> get a free meeting space for our new home.
>
> There are also other items that I have been thinking about
> fundraising for. It would be nice to get a better projector, for
> example.
>
> But none of this directly relates to your offer. I think that if you
> as an individual was to arrange for some KWLUG speakers then that
> could work, but it would be you who makes the financial arrangements
> (because as Chamunks noted KWLUG does not officially exist).
> Once you have somebody arranged I (or another organizer) can slot that
> presenter in.
>
> Keep in mind that in addition to finding people who know how to do
> Linux administration, we would want to bring in people who also have
> skills at doing presentations for others. Robert Elder might qualify
> for this, but I think arbitrary people on UpWork would need more
> vetting.
>
> Having said that, I think there are MANY people on this list who have
> the knowledge and talent to offer some really good newbie training,
> either during meetings or as a separate event. I would love to see a
> few more offers from people willing to present Linux basics.
>
> I agree that getting newbies out to meetings is a challenge. Sometimes
> people come for a few sessions, and then leave because the talks
> people are willing to offer are at too high a technical level (or
> maybe we are unfriendly in other ways).
>
> John got us started on a list of topics, but it is not clear to me
> which ones are in demand, or are most useful in 2018.
>
> I am guessing these will be incorporated into regular KWLUG meetings,
> as opposed to being separate events?
>
> - Paul
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:14:00AM -0500, Ron Singh wrote:
> > Here's my 2 cents, not sure how it will be received.
> >
> > See, I value what I have gained thus from the KWLUG meets I have
> attended,
> > the topics discussed on the mailing list, and tangentially, the
> information
> > gleaned from a single(so far) KWVoip meetup.
> >
> > In the spirit of giving back, I am able to pony up to $50 per
> > session(month?) to someone from outside of KWLUG, or $400/yr to KWLUG
> > towards expenses(essentially a sponsorship). I can also support
> KWLUG via
> > donations of older(but not *old*) computer hardware as it becomes
> available
> > to me.
> >
> > If the $50/session thing does not contradict the spirit of KWLUG,
> I would
> > like to make contact with a few individuals here --
> >
> https://www.upwork.com/local/canada/ontario/waterloo/linux-system-administration/
> > and see if they would be amenable to doing a 60-minute segment for
> newbies
> > and live with a mere $50(or less) fee for the talk and travel time.
> >
> > I see a couple of UPWORK low-cost younglings here and here:
> > https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~01be403b78b96c7860/
> > https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~01ae67e5ea9c1e9763/
> >
> > and a more seasoned UPWORK dude here:
> > https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~015d41ca163d109259/
> >
> > How about Robert Elder?
> >
> http://blog.robertelder.org/robert-elder-software-linux-operating-system/
> > He is quite the CLI guy.
> > I attended one of his meetings on SSH where I got about 30% of the
> ideas
> > and logic being discussed. Should I contact him on behald of KWLUG
> to see
> > if he is willing to do a talk on CLI commands. He is definitely
> not a GUI
> > guy.
> >
> > Alternatively, I donate a year's worth of sessions to KWLUG and
> everyone
> > chimes in with suggestions/contact they have to do talks for newbies.
> > I see one big challenge though and that is how to grab all the
> newbies by
> > the scruff and drag them into the KWLUG meetings to benefir from
> the newbie
> > sessions.
> >
> > I am just throwing this out there.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ron Singh
> > "in transit, via mobile comm device"
>
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