[kwlug-disc] Ubuntu 17.10

[CrankyOldBugger]

I do give Fedora creds for the smoothest installation, though, especially
if you want to use LVM (and modify it your way).
And since I work on Red Hat all day I have some decent scripts set up for
configuring the new Fedora/RHEL install.


On 23 January 2018 at 11:49, Ron Singh <ronsingh149 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I do have Debian 9(Cinnamon DE) on a desktop at work, being a Linux
> freshman, I am having some challenges, setting up remote, setting up shares
> and the like, but so far, Debian 9 has not crashed on me, their site is
> challenging for me to work with, but am getting there. Fedora 27 is
> something I wanted to play with, but mebbe it's my brain, but man, I find
> that distro real hard to navigate and especially, tailor. Fun playing
> around with them though.
>
> Oh, another thing, from a CPU/RAM utilization standpoint, even the Mint
> 18.3 Cinnamon instance had one the lowest of the lot, LM 18.1 Xfce was the
> lowest.
> Zorin was the worse. I would imagine that Lubuntu(LXDE) would be the
> slimmest and possibly the most reliable, but that DE is not to my liking at
> all, sort of like a Mac from the 80s...
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron Singh
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:40 AM, CrankyOldBugger <
> crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Ron.  I've been keeping Mint on my short list for replacement
>> distro.  Still thinking about what I want to do to my main box, though.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 at 11:35 Ron Singh <ronsingh149 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> @crankyoldbugger, you know, I spent 2 months trying every offering from
>>> Ubuntu from 14.04 to 17.04, with every single one of their DEs, Debian
>>> 9(Mate/Xfce/Gnome DEs), OpenSUSE, Kali, Zorin, Solus, Elementary, Mint. All
>>> were loaded as a bare-metal install to remove any VM bias, took a long
>>> time.
>>>
>>> I settled on Mint 18.1 Xfce for my daily drivers, and Mint 18.3
>>> Cinnamon(reverted to a 4.4.0.104 Kernel(LTS) from the 4.10 Kernel it ships
>>> with) for my media playback laptops.
>>> I did this out of a burning desire for the most rock-solid Linux
>>> experience I could get.
>>>
>>> Mint 18.1 is the most solid(with the 4.4.0.xxx kernel), the Xfce DE is
>>> the most intuitive and transparent of the lot, at least to me.
>>> KDE(Plasma) was a horrid experience, Gnome3, pretty much the same with
>>> those uber-annoying task bars on the screen, which I know can be modified,
>>> but straight out of the box, too much stuff is hidden and coming from an
>>> XP/W7 environment, too jarring and well, it slowed me down and provided
>>> zero value-add.
>>>
>>> With Mint, I really appreciate like the ability to have total control
>>> over what gets updated, the delivery of information via the changelogs on
>>> each app update/system update is excellent and one can make a personal
>>> judgement on the value of any given update. I do security updates on all
>>> userspace apps, I do security updates on system apps after reviewing the
>>> changelogs(not that hard and pretty quick to deal with) and I do
>>> kernel/driver updates every 3 months. I often go to www.kernel.org just
>>> to see what those gods have to say in their changelogs on the kernel.
>>>
>>> My "messing around" laptop is running LM 18.3 Xfce with the 4.14 kernel
>>> which I grabbed from Ubuntu's repo and this far, no surprises, but I would
>>> not commit it to a production PC. For my money, you want to work and not
>>> mess with load/reload of an OS, stick with LM 18.1 Xfce, you will be real
>>> happy. This is from a new-ish user(1 year) of Linux, so take it for what it
>>> is:-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ron Singh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:03 AM, CrankyOldBugger <
>>> crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just a general question...  but for those of you who are using the
>>>> latest Ubuntu 17.10 (where GNOME replaced Unity), how are you getting along
>>>> with it?  Is it working stable for you?
>>>>
>>>> I've had nothing but bad luck with the 17.10 release.  So bad that all
>>>> but one of my machines got switched over to Fedora instead of Ubuntu, and
>>>> my main desktop is staying at Ubuntu 17.04 until either 18.04 comes out and
>>>> is shown to work well, or I find another distro like Mint or Fedora or
>>>> Kali.  Currently that 17.04 machine is out of support now so I can't even
>>>> get security updates.  Not a happy place.
>>>>
>>>> The machines that got switched over to Fedora 27 have been running like
>>>> a charm.
>>>>
>>>> And before you ask.. it hasn't been just one problem, it's been a
>>>> variety of problems for each of the machines I tried installing it on.  And
>>>> running 17.10 in a VM at work has been disappointing as well.
>>>>
>>>> Is it just me, or are other people getting disillusioned with Ubuntu's
>>>> return to GNOME in 17.10?
>>>>
>>>>
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