[kwlug-disc] Jason's new book

Sat Jan 26 15:02:11 EST 2019

I'm somewhat holding my breath for M$oft to ditch the Microsoft model and
switch to the Apple model entirely and replace everything underneath
windows with Linux.  Then we might have a vaguely passable windows
experience and then people could potentially enjoy using a better
underlying OS.

On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 1:17 AM Stuart Seeley <stuart at lowlevel.ca> wrote:

> Not to start an echo chamber... but yeah, there is something to be said
> for a default desktop environment that smoothly and beautifully does
> exactly what you expect. I also find the more I customize, the more out of
> my element I am when I'm inevitably forced out of the boat. It is getting
> better... but we're still pretty far away from passable.
>
> Stuart
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 5:36 PM Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It would be really nice to have a nice long term consistent linux
>> experience for the desktop environment.  I was running a Lenovo something
>> something for a travel laptop for a trip I took last year and regretted not
>> taking my Mac the trackpad was bad, the load times were awful even with an
>> SSD everything in the UX/UI felt jittery and slow I just wish there was one
>> company dedicated to producing liquid smooth consistent user experiences in
>> the Linux universe sure I can have a desktop environment a million
>> different ways but at the end of the day if I spend more time configuring
>> things than doing what I want to do its just a mess.  I find because of the
>> huge plethora of options in linux I spend more time constantly optimizing
>> how my UX is then finding ways to configuration manage so that my
>> workstation is a stateless entity that it just seems unattainable for the
>> average user.  If we could take the linux desktop experience of like 10
>> years from now and bring it back to today then I think that I'll be happy.
>> I love linux very much but I still find it unsuitable for a working
>> environment outside of servers and dev which makes me a little angry with
>> myself for feeling this way but until something gets better I'll keep my
>> eyes open and encourage the FOSS projects to go in the direction I think
>> will make the ecosystem better.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 3:07 PM Doug Moen <doug at moens.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been using a Macintosh since 1984. My current Mac is a 2010 MacBook
>>> Air. At the time I bought it, it was the best laptop on the market. The
>>> build quality was much better than any PC laptop that I could find in
>>> retail stores, and it was also much lighter. I'm really pleased with how
>>> long it has lasted. I still use it daily as my only laptop.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, Apple doesn't currently sell any hardware that I would
>>> consider buying, and I doubt they will sell hardware I want ever again. The
>>> current MacBooks have a bad keyboard with unacceptably low key travel, and
>>> they are unreliable, with an outrageous repair cost. The ribbon cable that
>>> runs power to the backlight is thinner and more prone to breaking than in
>>> laptop models from the past, with a really high repair cost. The boot rom
>>> is designed to make it impossible to boot Linux. Good trackpad, though, and
>>> nice display. The fastest Mac desktop you can currently buy is a
>>> reconditioned Mac Pro "cheese grater" edition, built in 2006 (from a third
>>> party) with upgraded CPU, RAM, GPU and SSD. Nothing Apple currently sells
>>> can compete, and new Mac desktops are mostly not upgradeable. And I have
>>> never considered buying an iOS device, due to the walled garden, and the
>>> impossibility of running my own software on it, and also because of the
>>> surveillance and spyware.
>>>
>>> So I view Mac as a dying ecosystem. At some point, my MacBook will die,
>>> and I will need to buy a Linux laptop to replace it. The Dell XPS 13 looks
>>> like a nice replacement.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Chamunks wrote:
>>>
>>> The big reason I like apple is I just throw an ever increasing fist full
>>> of cash at them every 4-8 years and I get a toaster with a lever I pull and
>>> when I pull that lever I get my toast.  If I can get a PC that behaves
>>> exactly as I expect with no superfluous bullshit like Windows and other
>>> crapware along with a colossal ecosystem full of spare parts online than
>>> I'll switch.  But until PC becomes ubiquitous with at least some of the
>>> aforementioned game breakers then I'm sticking where I am for my
>>> workstations.
>>>
>>> If nothing else I would consider switching my laptop for a Chromebook if
>>> I could get a Chromebook without the Google in it.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 5:20 PM Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc <
>>> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is priceless! Quote:
>>>
>>> """
>>>
>>> Keeping older Apple products prevents you from living your life to the
>>> fullest, as those products do not  contain the latest innovations. {#63:
>>> Plus, you won‟t look cool in Starbucks.}
>>>
>>> """
>>> On 2019-01-21 3:19 p.m., CrankyOldBugger wrote:
>>>
>>> Frequent KWLUG speaker Jason Eckert just finished a short (70 pages)
>>> book on "Escaping the Cult of Mac"; and it's a hilarious read.  I recommend
>>> that you check it out.
>>>
>>> You can download it from his Github page:
>>> https://github.com/jasoneckert/CultOfMac
>>>
>>>
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