[kwlug-disc] Transferring large backup files over the network

[Jeff Smith]

I'm going to reluctantly end up starting a flame war, whether I want to or not...

Just found out two minutes ago that BTRFS is being dropped by both RHEL and GParted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs#No_longer_supported

https://news.softpedia.com/news/gparted-open-source-partition-editor-reaches-1-0-milestone-after-almost-15-years-526221.shtml

(you have to scroll down to the bottom of both articles for the relevant bits.




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From: kwlug-disc <kwlug-disc-bounces at kwlug.org> on behalf of bob+kwlug at softscape.ca <bob+kwlug at softscape.ca>
Sent: 29 May 2019 16:53
To: 'KWLUG discussion'
Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Transferring large backup files over the network

ZFS for work, BTRFS for home.

If I am not mistaken, btrfs' ability to add and remove disks from storage pools makes it a good choice for working with eclectic spindles. Something I wouldn't do at work, but definitely at home where "found" hardware rules the day.

BB


> -----Original Message-----
> From: kwlug-disc [mailto:kwlug-disc-bounces at kwlug.org] On Behalf Of
> jason.eckert
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 8:14 PM
> To: KWLUG discussion
> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Transferring large backup files over the network
>
> I'll openly admit that I'm a ZFS snob - I've always regarded BTRFS as
> decaf ZFS ;-)
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung device running Android (basically Linux in drag)
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>
> Date: 2019-05-23 20:07 (GMT-05:00)
> To: KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Transferring large backup files over the network
>
> We looked at BTRFS at work a few months ago and decided that it wasn't
> ready for prime time yet.  I wonder if it's improved since then?  We're
> happy with ext4 and LVM.
>
>
> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 19:08, bob+kwlug at softscape.ca
> <mailto:bob%2Bkwlug at softscape.ca>  <bob+kwlug at softscape.ca
> <mailto:bob%2Bkwlug at softscape.ca> > wrote:
>
>
>        Nothing to add to this but just wanted to give a
>
>        +1
>
>        For use of BTRFS. Love that FS.
>
>        BB
>
>
>        > -----Original Message-----
>        > From: kwlug-disc [mailto:kwlug-disc-bounces at kwlug.org] On Behalf
> Of Remi
>        > Gauvin
>        > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 5:57 PM
>        > To: KWLUG discussion
>        > Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Transferring large backup files over the
> network
>        >
>        > On 2019-05-23 4:40 p.m., Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:
>        >
>        > >>
>        > >
>        > > Hrm. That brings to mind the (non-FLOSS) Windows Subsystem for
> Linux.
>        > > The problem with many of these "compile Linux tools on Windows"
> is
>        > > that they are often limited to 32-bit (although I am not sure
> whether
>        > > MobaXterm is). That actually has caused problems for me in my
> backups
>        > > when I have tried to use various Rsync for Windows tools in the
> past.
>        > >
>        > > But if I install Linux in Windows using WSL, then the 64 bit
> versions
>        > > of these tools might be available, and then maybe NTFS is not
> going to
>        > > be the bottleneck any more.
>        > >
>        >
>        > I just use Cygwin for this purpose.  Neither NTFS nor 32-bitness
> are a
>        > problem, and I have no idea why you think they would be.  I do
> not,
>        > however, preserve the permissions / Ownership of the Windows host
> to the
>        > backup.
>        >
>        > Sample rsync:
>        >
>        > (Note: The --inplace is because I'm using BTRFS and snapshots on
> the
>        > backup side.  You would not use it otherwise.)\
>        >
>        > Note2: I have encountered problems with rsync compression and some
> multi
>        > GB files.  Compression is instead enabled in the ssh_config if
> sending
>        > over a slow link.
>        >
>        >
>        > /usr/bin/rsync \
>        >       -a --no-o --no-g --no-p --chmod=ugo=rwX --info=STATS \
>        >       --inplace --exclude='.snapshots' --delete \
>        >       /nas/  \
>        >       destination_host:/data/nas/
>        >
>        >
>
>
>
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