[kwlug-disc] about silicon
Mikalai Birukou
mb at 3nsoft.com
Sun Dec 13 13:06:09 EST 2020
> Found a nice blog post explaining why M1 is fast.
> https://debugger.medium.com/why-is-apples-m1-chip-so-fast-3262b158cba2
I knew it! I felt it all my life! It takes insurmountable amount of time
to prepare place for painting, more than painting itself takes. ...
Eight preppers of micro-ops in M1 versus four in Intel/AMD.
I still have feeling that co-locating memory also helps preppers'
result, besides the benefit of RISC's constant length of instruction.
It also explains talks of AMD going with ARM. RISC-y business :)
> Rust provides both Atomic Reference Counting (called Arc) and
> non-atomic Reference Counting (called Rc). You choose the one that
> makes sense. Hopefully the type system complains if you use Rc in
> a context where atomicity is required, but I don't use Rust. C++
> provides only atomic refcounting in the standard library; for the
> other kind you roll your own (which I have done).
>>
>> <moving into discussing silicon and near it>
>>
>>> Another trick is that Apple's dev languages and frameworks
>>> (Swift and Objective-C) use reference counting, which requires
>>> atomic increments and decrements. On Intel, these operations are
>>> five times slower than non-atomic operations; on Apple Silicon
>>> they run at the same speed. This is something I wish the other
>>> CPU vendors would get right, because refcounting has some
>>> technical advantages over tracing GC, and I use it in software I
>>> write. C++ and Rust, both "performance" languages, provide
>>> refcounting but not tracing GC.
>>>> Regarding M1. My Understanding is that placement of RAM inside
>>>> of processor package/silicon is the trick that makes it run
>>>> fast. Is there anything else?
>>>>
>>>>> The Apple M1 looks decent, but since Apple no longer lets you
>>>>> run Linux on their hardware, I have no desire to ever buy one.
>> Does Rust standard refcounting, or implementation of such
>> pointers need to use atomic in/decrements? Can't it use
>> non-atomic something, given a more detailed knowledge of
>> ownership? Just wondering.
>>
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