[kwlug-disc] RMS talk hosted by UW CSC tomorrow

[Mikalai Birukou]

... After actually reading articles and email referred in articles, a 
few questions, searches to check them, I have a couple suggestions:

Firstly, let's get rid of monarchy. Those people, who are cancelling RMS 
now, should apply proportional treatment! If RMS is cancelled for mere 
attempt to protect renommé of his friend, then crown should be cancelled 
in Canada. There is a photographic evidence against prince Andrew.

Secondly, seriously, make all these vogue do actual to useful act of 
removing money from a pedestal, and put human dignity there. Removal of 
crown, stop Canada from being a monarchy will send a powerful signal 
that will change social behaviour to the better.

Thirdly. Why no administrator, no lawyer at the uni warned Minsky after 
Epstein's 2002 convictions? I bet that these people, who've covered 
Epstein after 2002, are all vogue now. The coverup of a seemingly 
successful is what let another Epstein appear. These people need to see 
monarchy go, cause it will be a strong signal for them. Absent that, 
heads of administration should roll. Administration is supposed to look 
after geek genius, cause there may be not enough place in a limited 
human brain to do great things and then also excel at politics.

Forth. I had a natural question about Minsky wife. Here, 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Minsky , I've learned that her name 
is Gloria, and quote: "Minsky's widow, Gloria Rudisch, says that he 
could not have had sex with any of the women at Epstein's residences, as 
they were always together during all of the visits to Epstein's 
residences." And a lesson here for RMS and those like him, in a 
minefield of political organizations, take your time. Take your time 
when someone asks about judgement. It seems that fullness of time would 
give Gloria's words, eliminating any need to troll in email lists. What 
they say about justice and an arch of time.


I want to see UofW administrators to start motion to move Canada away 
from monarchy. Nothing less. Seriously.


On 2020-11-27 5:21 p.m., Jason Eckert wrote:
> Just got out of a meeting and saw this.
> It makes me angry to hear that there was pressure to censor this 
> academic talk, and RMS has valid points in his explanation video as well.
> I'll try to catch it in a week when he does it again.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 4:11 PM Mingde (Matthew) Zeng 
> <matthewzmd at posteo.net <mailto:matthewzmd at posteo.net>> wrote:
>
>
>     A followup video explaining the cancellatoin from rms himself:
>     https://live0.emacsconf.org/rms.webm
>
>     Chris Frey <cdfrey at foursquare.net <mailto:cdfrey at foursquare.net>>
>     writes:
>
>     > I don't know what the controversy was, but the website says the talk
>     > was cancelled.
>     >
>     > - Chris
>     >
>     >
>     > On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 02:15:30PM -0500, Jason Eckert wrote:
>     >> I followed the RMS controversy when it happened, and to be
>     honest, I'm a
>     >> little surprised UW asked him to present as a result given today's
>     >> academic climate.
>     >> However, I think it's incredibly important that students who
>     are entering
>     >> computer science hear RMS's views on free software, which is
>     why I think
>     >> they invited him to talk. Without his radical free software
>     viewpoint, it's
>     >> difficult to put the spectrum of open source licensing in
>     perspective.
>     >>
>     >> On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 10:28 AM <tomg at sentex.ca
>     <mailto:tomg at sentex.ca>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> > Quoting Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org
>     <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>>:
>     >> >
>     >> > > I am a little surprised by this, but oh well.
>     >> >
>     >> > RMS seems like a good guy to me.
>     >> >
>     >> >
>
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