[kwlug-disc] Vote machines today

CrankyOldBugger crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
Thu Jun 2 17:04:12 EDT 2022


I would add the criteria "*Espionage: *Not owned and operated by a foreign
government (especially the Yanks)"


On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 4:52 PM Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 2:32 PM Chris Irwin via kwlug-disc <
> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I'm not opposed to electronic *counting* of votes, as long as there
>> is an original paper ballot for manual recounts if warranted. I absolutely
>> oppose purely electronic voting (ex: touchscreens).
>>
>
> That is exactly my position too.
>
> As long as there is a physical paper ballot, distributed polling stations,
> easily audited by lay people, then the criteria are met.
>
> The criteria, for me, that must be met are as follows:
>
> - *Anonymity:* a ballot cannot be traced to an individual, so there is no
> pressure or reprisal.
> - *Decentralization:* ballots should not all go to one location to be
> counted (where it can be switched, or stuffed). Otherwise, you can bribe or
> threaten a few people to get a favorable result for you or your friends.
> - *Auditability:* ballots can be recounted with witnesses from various
> candidates/parties. Software on the other hand can be modified by one
> corrupt programmer or installer for a bribe, under pressure or for
> ideology. Even if a committee supervises the software release, this is a
> single point of failure (see next point), and there is no guarantee that
> "this software" is what ended up on the web site, or released as an app.
> - *Transparency: *the entire process should understandable to a lay
> person
>
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