[kwlug-disc] have I ever told you guys that Facebook is evil?

Mikalai Birukou mb at 3nsoft.com
Thu Jun 16 17:41:40 EDT 2022


On 2022-06-16 14:14, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
> If you guys are interested in the two big bills that are floating 
> around Ottawa right now, one about the internet and Cancon (I'm 
> over-simplifying here) and the other about users' privacy, then you 
> should follow lawyerMichael Geist (@mgeist on Twitter). He's "the guy" 
> when it comes to Cdn internet/privacy/etc laws.
>
> (I'm on Twitter at @rjeffsmith2010 if you're interested in ho-hum stuff..)

Comparison of original C-11 vs C-27 (from @mgeist on Twitter):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WchEmMjWAJnjxa0X961qft1Aq-Q9cth6/view


> On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 1:50 PM Doug Moen <doug at moens.org> wrote:
>
>     On Thu, Jun 16, 2022, at 12:15 PM, William Park via kwlug-disc wrote:
>     > No one is gonna get fired over this.  So, don't worry about it.
>
>     The Ontario Personal Health Information Protection Act
>     https://www.ipc.on.ca/health-individuals/file-a-health-privacy-complaint/your-health-privacy-rights-in-ontario/
>     gives me the right to
>      * be informed of the reasons for the collection, use and
>     disclosure of your personal health information
>      * refuse or give consent to the collection, use or disclosure of
>     your personal health information, except in certain circumstances
>
>     In the early days, patients were asked to give informed consent,
>     consistent with the law. I would be given a form to sign that
>     explicitly mentioned that information was being collected, and
>     that I had right of refusal.
>
>     Now, nobody is being informed of the fact of collection, or of
>     their right of refusal. This is prima facie illegal, according to
>     the statement of principles on the web site I liked. And people
>     don't care that their civil rights are being slowly eroded. "Don't
>     worry about it", as you say. This process of civil rights erosion
>     doesn't end well, it ends up with what's going on the United
>     States, or worse. A generation of people are growing up, under a
>     constant stream of propaganda from the surveillance capitalists,
>     that privacy doesn't matter, and that privacy is the enemy of
>     "convenience". And that worries me.
>
>     Like for example, we just bought a new washing machine and dryer.
>     The top selling brand transmits everything you do to the
>     manufacturer over the internet. For now, this is opt in, but
>     internet surveillance already cannot be turned off for a growing
>     number of consumer machines and appliances. We bought a less
>     popular brand with no surveillance, because that's something
>     that's still available.
>
>     Remember that Canadian government petition circulated earlier on
>     the mailing list, about consumer data privacy and the right to
>     repair? I signed it.
>
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