[kwlug-disc] sadness in Ubuntu land
Charles M
chaslinux at gmail.com
Tue May 3 16:48:29 EDT 2022
It's probably a bit late Andrew, but I found these instructions for
restoring the ability to install Firefox from apt on *buntu 22.04
here:
https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/install-firefox-deb-ubuntu-22-04/
Cheers,
Charles
On Sun, 1 May 2022 at 14:01, Andrew Sullivan Cant
<acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>
> I just did the upgrade to 22.04, last night. The system prompted me to
> do it, like a regular upgrade, and it worked.
>
> However, now I have lost the Firefox installation through APT.
>
> :sadtrombone:
>
> My installation steps described below no longer work. :( I guess it is
> time to try out the PPA method from OMG if I want browserpass or the
> ability to install new Gnome extensions.
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On 2022-04-28 17:10, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
> > I'll say one thing for the new Ubuntu, the new RDP (with legacy VNC)
> > option is certainly speedier than the old way.
> >
> > And no longer needing the Dash-to-dock extension (now built-in, sort of)
> > is good too.
> >
> > The Snaps ecosystem aside, I don't find 22.04 to be too bad at all. The
> > new GNOME Extensions app seems to cover what we lose when using FF for
> > GNOME extensions, so no big loss there.
> >
> > And for the first time in a long time, the Ubuntu upgrade app worked
> > without any issues on my laptop. Usually I have to do a wipe and load.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 4:44 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant
> > <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca <mailto:acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca>> wrote:
> >
> > I saw that article last week, but I don't understand why the PPA is
> > needed.
> >
> > Here is my context:
> > * I re-installed my laptop with Ubuntu (v21.10), maybe 2 months ago
> > * installed various firefox extensions from apt including the Gnome
> > extension helper:
> > - webext-browserpass
> > - webext-privacy-badger
> > - webext-ublock-origin-firefox
> > - chrome-gnome-shell
> > * then I noticed some inconsistent behaviour in Firefox configuration,
> > and realized that there were now 2 copies of Firefox installed
> > - snap version, which has been installed by default
> > - deb version, which was installed as a dependency from the webext-*
> > packages
> >
> > After I realized this I remove the snap version, `snap remove firefox`,
> > and everything seems to be working as expected. Including that the apt
> > installed browser could communicated with the local helpers needed for
> > the Gnome and browserpass addons.
> >
> > Tada? I guess...
> >
> > It was a bit confusing, but now it seems to be working, including
> > surviving automatic updates.
> >
> > Hopefully, this is a helpful data point. :)
> >
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2022-04-24 16:12, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
> > > Seems like we're not the only ones concerned about FF as a Snap:
> > >
> > >
> > https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04
> > <https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04>
> >
> > >
> > <https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04
> > <https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04>>
> > >
> > > OMGUbuntu takes a more in-depth look at how to fix this.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 12:41 AM Chris Irwin via kwlug-disc
> > > <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
> > <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > __
> > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, at 00:23, Chris Frey wrote:
> > >> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you
> > have
> > >> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the
> > unstable
> > >> distribution that some required packages have not yet been
> > created
> > >> or been moved out of Incoming.
> > >> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> > >>
> > >> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> > >> firefox : PreDepends: snapd but it is not going to be installed
> > >> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
> > >
> > > It may be as simple as Ubuntu's (snap-installing) deb has a
> > slightly
> > > higher version that the one from the third-party repo, rather
> > than a
> > > malicious modification to apt itself. You should be able to
> > use apt
> > > pinning to say `firefox` should only be installed from a specific
> > > repo. This might also prevent the dependency warning message.
> > >
> > > A mocked-up /etc/apt/preferences.d/mozillateam:
> > >
> > > Package: firefox
> > > Pin release o=mozillateam
> > > Pin-Priority: -10
> > >
> > > However, I don't actually have an Ubuntu machine to test, so
> > you may
> > > need to adjust that. I got this from the following URLs:
> > >
> > > 1.
> > >
> > https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get
> > <https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get>
> > >
> > <https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get <https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get>>
> > > 2. https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences
> > <https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences>
> > > <https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences
> > <https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences>>
> > >
> > > If you're looking for alternative distros, Fedora is nice. I
> > > switched from Ubuntu about 10 years ago now, and have been
> > very happy.
> > >
> > > If you're just trying to avoid the startup issues associated with
> > > snap, the flatpak firefox from flathub works well. It's
> > provided by
> > > Mozilla, and is indistinguishable from the native firefox. I
> > have it
> > > installed for troubleshooting and honestly have few issues
> > with it.
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Chris Irwin*
> > >
> > > email: chris at chrisirwin.ca <mailto:chris at chrisirwin.ca>
> > <mailto:chris at chrisirwin.ca <mailto:chris at chrisirwin.ca>>
> > > web: https://chrisirwin.ca <https://chrisirwin.ca>
> > <https://chrisirwin.ca <https://chrisirwin.ca>>
> > >
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