[kwlug-disc] ***SPAM*** Re: Terraform licensing

[Jeff Smith]

I don't know anything about Terraform, so I don't understand what you guys are going on about, but I did see in HN that there's a new fork of Terraform:

https://opentf.org/announcement
[https://opentf.org/images/og.png]<https://opentf.org/announcement>
OpenTF created a fork of Terraform!<https://opentf.org/announcement>
Read the official announcement: opentf.org/announcement
opentf.org




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Jason, would you give a presentation, since this is so timely? Even in September?

On 2023-08-27 08:25, Jason Eckert wrote:
Ah yes - Pulumi relies on vanilla YAML, which is nicer for developers, SREs and others overall in my opinion.
One thing I noticed moving to Pulumi is that the learning curve is less to get started (something Hashicorp struggles with in general). For example, there are easy-to-actually-use YAML templates for each major cloud provider you can use right away.

On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 at 21:44, Raymond Chen <raymondchen625 at gmail.com<mailto:raymondchen625 at gmail.com>> wrote:
I took a glance at Pulumi. It's interesting. Is its configuration language pure YAML or something similar to HCL in Terraform?
A fun comparison of open issues on GitHub: Terraform: 3.7k vs Pulumi 1.7k

- Raymond

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 8:48 PM Chris Frey <cdfrey at foursquare.net<mailto:cdfrey at foursquare.net>> wrote:
Perhaps as usual, the "bad news" is actually good news. :-)
I'll have to take a look!

- Chris


On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 08:06:43PM -0400, Jason Eckert wrote:
> Pulumi is very good - long story short, it does everything Terraform does
> (at least what we need it to do), and it's definitely much easier to work
> with.
> Oh, and it's got far better support for Kubernetes in general.
>
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 at 20:00, Chris Frey <cdfrey at foursquare.net<mailto:cdfrey at foursquare.net>> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 01:22:49PM -0400, Jason Eckert wrote:
> > > The Internet commentary about this move will merely serve to describe
> > what
> > > is already happening: organizations (mine included) are moving from
> > > Terraform to something else (in our case, Pulumni).
> >
> > What do you think of Pulumni?   Looks more code-based, which is
> > interesting.
> >
> > - Chris
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