[kwlug-disc] Backup plan for BBB server this month

[kwlug at c.nixc.us]

Yeah I spent about an hour staring into the abysse looking at BBB it apparently seems to require 20 separate interoperating services to be able to hold digital conferences?! really??? 
https://github.com/bigbluebutton/docker/blob/develop/docker-compose.tmpl.yml Their documentation even have the gall to concider this a "easy deployment of BBB" woooof oh boy.  it looks like a polar plunge.



October 3, 2024 at 10:19 PM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org" <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co> wrote:



> 
> Thanks to you and Jason for the offers. As Mikalai noted Rogers fixed
> 
> the connection, so my message was a big unnecessary false alarm. 
> 
> - Paul
> 
> On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 03:15:11PM -0400, Mark Steffen wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I have a Jitsi server, happy to volunteer it for a backup if needed,
> > 
> >  assuming the bandwidth requirements are a fit.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  How much bandwidth do you think that would use symmetrically?  I only have
> > 
> >  symmterical gigabit presently, so I wouldn't want it to use more than about
> > 
> >  500mbps to leave room for other things.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  Would also need to load test, it was mainly used for family "gatherings"
> > 
> >  during covid, maybe 10-12 connections tops.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  Mark
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  On 2024-10-03 3:05 p.m., Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc wrote:
> > 
> >  > As of now (and since Oct 1) it looks like our BigBlueButton server has
> > 
> >  > been inaccessible, because Datacity is having an internet outage at
> > 
> >  > its datacentre. (I cannot imagine its paying customers are very happy
> > 
> >  > right now.)
> > 
> >  I suspect most of their customers have moved to their Waterloo location
> > 
> >  with two different fibers to Front Street. I will 😳.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  I don't think we should expect another truck accident near Roger fibers
> > 
> >  this coming Monday. We have already witnessed once in a blue moon streak
> > 
> >  of fiber cuts. I am hopeful, cause this isn't Texas 🙂. Fiber cut has
> > 
> >  been fixed. And yes, it took Rogers 24 hours.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  > I imagine this will be fixed by Monday. If not: does anybody have
> > 
> >  > access to a different videoconferencing solution we could use for
> > 
> >  > Monday? It should be able to support 15-20 participants. Open source
> > 
> >  > (BBB, Jitsi, ???) is ideologically nicer, but a proprietary service
> > 
> >  > might work in the worst case. We would have to test such a setup
> > 
> >  > Friday or Saturday.
> > 
> >  For this kind of backup, let's note that we have 15-20 non-video-cam
> > 
> >  participant, with only two presenting streams. This should instruct a
> > 
> >  required bandwidth.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  I wonder, if this can be some kind of vm, rolled out in case of emergency.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  We can put BBB and greenlight behind existing haproxy (using an almost
> > 
> >  copy paste of BBB's own haproxy settings). If there is possibility in
> > 
> >  case of emergency to spawn up and down vm where kwlug.org is located,
> > 
> >  then in an emergency colocated vm process can be started.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  > My understanding is that meet.jit.si has limitations now?
> > 
> >  > 
> > 
> >  > I don't like opening this can of worms but it is important to me that
> > 
> >  > we maintain good accessibility for people who prefer to participate
> > 
> >  > online.
> > 
> >  > 
> > 
> >  > - Paul
> > 
> >  > 
> > 
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