[kwlug-disc] Backup plan for BBB server this month
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Fri Oct 4 14:54:14 EDT 2024
Getting closer I'm just refusing to surrender with the WebRTC and XMPP etc containers just yet.
https://meet.nixc.us/
October 4, 2024 at 11:25 AM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org" <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co> wrote:
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> On 2024-10-04 08:48, Colin_ via kwlug-disc wrote:
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> > I am about 30% away from a probably functional Jitsi meet instance just in case I'll leave it up if I get it working well. I just have to do some reverse proxy magic and it should be golden.
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> This in itself can be a topic for talk. Reverse proxy. How for sites. How for WebRTC. What are indicators in that TLS handshake. Handshake itself. I'd love to hear this.
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> > October 4, 2024 at 12:45 AM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org" <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co> wrote:
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> > > > Yeah I spent about an hour staring into the abysse looking at BBB it apparently seems to require 20 separate interoperating services to be able to hold digital conferences?! really???
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> > > It is like a sausage (octoberfest time) 🙂 : you never want to know how it is made. As long as you don't step from the most traveled path, and their script just runs, fingers crossed.
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> > > > https://github.com/bigbluebutton/docker/blob/develop/docker-compose.tmpl.yml Their documentation even have the gall to concider this a "easy deployment of BBB" woooof oh boy. it looks like a polar plunge.
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> > > > October 3, 2024 at 10:19 PM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org" <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co> wrote:
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> > > > > Thanks to you and Jason for the offers. As Mikalai noted Rogers fixed
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> > > > > the connection, so my message was a big unnecessary false alarm.
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> > > > > - Paul
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> > > > > On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 03:15:11PM -0400, Mark Steffen wrote:
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> > > > > > I have a Jitsi server, happy to volunteer it for a backup if needed,
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> > > > > > assuming the bandwidth requirements are a fit.
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> > > > > > How much bandwidth do you think that would use symmetrically? I only have
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> > > > > > symmterical gigabit presently, so I wouldn't want it to use more than about
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> > > > > > 500mbps to leave room for other things.
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> > > > > > Would also need to load test, it was mainly used for family "gatherings"
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> > > > > > during covid, maybe 10-12 connections tops.
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> > > > > > Mark
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> > > > > > On 2024-10-03 3:05 p.m., Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc wrote:
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> > > > > > > As of now (and since Oct 1) it looks like our BigBlueButton server has
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> > > > > > > been inaccessible, because Datacity is having an internet outage at
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> > > > > > > its datacentre. (I cannot imagine its paying customers are very happy
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> > > > > > > right now.)
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> > > > > > I suspect most of their customers have moved to their Waterloo location
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> > > > > > with two different fibers to Front Street. I will 😳.
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> > > > > > I don't think we should expect another truck accident near Roger fibers
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> > > > > > this coming Monday. We have already witnessed once in a blue moon streak
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> > > > > > of fiber cuts. I am hopeful, cause this isn't Texas 🙂. Fiber cut has
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> > > > > > been fixed. And yes, it took Rogers 24 hours.
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> > > > > > > I imagine this will be fixed by Monday. If not: does anybody have
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> > > > > > > access to a different videoconferencing solution we could use for
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> > > > > > > Monday? It should be able to support 15-20 participants. Open source
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> > > > > > > (BBB, Jitsi, ???) is ideologically nicer, but a proprietary service
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> > > > > > > might work in the worst case. We would have to test such a setup
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> > > > > > > Friday or Saturday.
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> > > > > > For this kind of backup, let's note that we have 15-20 non-video-cam
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> > > > > > participant, with only two presenting streams. This should instruct a
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> > > > > > required bandwidth.
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> > > > > > I wonder, if this can be some kind of vm, rolled out in case of emergency.
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> > > > > > We can put BBB and greenlight behind existing haproxy (using an almost
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> > > > > > copy paste of BBB's own haproxy settings). If there is possibility in
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> > > > > > case of emergency to spawn up and down vm where kwlug.org is located,
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> > > > > > then in an emergency colocated vm process can be started.
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> > > > > > > My understanding is that meet.jit.si has limitations now?
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> > > > > > > I don't like opening this can of worms but it is important to me that
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> > > > > > > we maintain good accessibility for people who prefer to participate
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> > > > > > > online.
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> > > > > > > - Paul
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