[kwlug-disc] Backup plan for BBB server this month

Paul Nijjar paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca
Sat Oct 5 19:38:58 EDT 2024


You mean a name on the KWLUG namespace? So something like
jitsi.kwlug.org ? Or something else?

- Paul

On Sat, Oct 05, 2024 at 09:10:58PM +0000, Colin_ via kwlug-disc wrote:
> Okay, so if someone wants to set up a name for meet.nixc.us, this is a great alternative, and I'll have this online, just in case.
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> October 4, 2024 at 11:25 AM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org" <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co> wrote:
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> > On 2024-10-04 08:48, Colin_ via kwlug-disc wrote: 
> >  
> > > 
> > > I am about 30% away from a probably functional Jitsi meet instance just in case I'll leave it up if I get it working well.  I just have to do some reverse proxy magic and it should be golden.
> > >  
> > 
> > This in itself can be a topic for talk. Reverse proxy. How for sites. How for WebRTC. What are indicators in that TLS handshake. Handshake itself. I'd love to hear this.
> > 
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> > > 
> > > October 4, 2024 at 12:45 AM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org" <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co> wrote:
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> > > > > Yeah I spent about an hour staring into the abysse looking at BBB it apparently seems to require 20 separate interoperating services to be able to hold digital conferences?! really???
> > > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > It is like a sausage (octoberfest time) 🙂 : you never want to know how it is made. As long as you don't step from the most traveled path, and their script just runs, fingers crossed.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://github.com/bigbluebutton/docker/blob/develop/docker-compose.tmpl.yml Their documentation even have the gall to concider this a "easy deployment of BBB" woooof oh boy.  it looks like a polar plunge. 
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> > > > > October 3, 2024 at 10:19 PM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org" <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co> wrote:
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> > > > > > Thanks to you and Jason for the offers. As Mikalai noted Rogers fixed 
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >  the connection, so my message was a big unnecessary false alarm. 
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> > > > > >  - Paul 
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> > > > > >  On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 03:15:11PM -0400, Mark Steffen wrote: 
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> > > > > > > I have a Jitsi server, happy to volunteer it for a backup if needed, 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  assuming the bandwidth requirements are a fit. 
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> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  How much bandwidth do you think that would use symmetrically?  I only have 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  symmterical gigabit presently, so I wouldn't want it to use more than about 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  500mbps to leave room for other things. 
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> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  Would also need to load test, it was mainly used for family "gatherings" 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  during covid, maybe 10-12 connections tops. 
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> > > > > > >  Mark 
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> > > > > > >  On 2024-10-03 3:05 p.m., Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc wrote: 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > As of now (and since Oct 1) it looks like our BigBlueButton server has 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > been inaccessible, because Datacity is having an internet outage at 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > its datacentre. (I cannot imagine its paying customers are very happy 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > right now.) 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  I suspect most of their customers have moved to their Waterloo location 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  with two different fibers to Front Street. I will 😳. 
> > > > > > >  
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> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  I don't think we should expect another truck accident near Roger fibers 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  this coming Monday. We have already witnessed once in a blue moon streak 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  of fiber cuts. I am hopeful, cause this isn't Texas 🙂. Fiber cut has 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  been fixed. And yes, it took Rogers 24 hours. 
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> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > I imagine this will be fixed by Monday. If not: does anybody have 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > access to a different videoconferencing solution we could use for 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > Monday? It should be able to support 15-20 participants. Open source 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > (BBB, Jitsi, ???) is ideologically nicer, but a proprietary service 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > might work in the worst case. We would have to test such a setup 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > Friday or Saturday. 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  For this kind of backup, let's note that we have 15-20 non-video-cam 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  participant, with only two presenting streams. This should instruct a 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  required bandwidth. 
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> > > > > > >  I wonder, if this can be some kind of vm, rolled out in case of emergency. 
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> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  We can put BBB and greenlight behind existing haproxy (using an almost 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  copy paste of BBB's own haproxy settings). If there is possibility in 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  case of emergency to spawn up and down vm where kwlug.org is located, 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  then in an emergency colocated vm process can be started. 
> > > > > > >  
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> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > My understanding is that meet.jit.si has limitations now? 
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> > > > > > >  > 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > I don't like opening this can of worms but it is important to me that 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > we maintain good accessibility for people who prefer to participate 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > online. 
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> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  > - Paul 
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