<div dir="ltr">This is why I love self-hosting. If a free service is in the cloud, there is still a cost to it. <br>Eventually the bill comes due, and once it's popular enough and you're locked in, they will start charging subscription fees.<br><br><div>While software licenses can change such as recently with Hashicorp Terraform, we've seen it happen both ways, like with Elasticsearch and Kibana moving back to open source.</div><div>You have less chance of a rug pull or at least have some control since you host it. The worst is that you won't continue to get updates.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The repo for Mirantis K8s Lens is still around but at the bottom it shows that it was retired:<br><a href="https://github.com/lensapp/lens">https://github.com/lensapp/lens</a><br><br>Info on when they went closed-source:<div><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39811772">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39811772</a><br><br>As an alternative, check out K9s: <a href="https://k9scli.io/">https://k9scli.io/</a><br><br>There is actually a CNCF Toronto event tomorrow where it will be covered:<br><a href="https://community.cncf.io/events/details/cncf-cloud-native-toronto-presents-october-toronto-cncf-meetup-end-user-stories/">https://community.cncf.io/events/details/cncf-cloud-native-toronto-presents-october-toronto-cncf-meetup-end-user-stories/</a><br><br>Fun videos on this topic (the second one talks about some self-hosting options):<br><br>Fireship - Paying for software is stupid… 10 free and open-source SaaS replacements<br><a href="https://youtu.be/e5dhaQm_J6U?si=EqFLR8LuRyrLc2Qf">https://youtu.be/e5dhaQm_J6U?si=EqFLR8LuRyrLc2Qf</a><br><br>Fireship - How To Make AWS Not Suck<br><a href="https://youtu.be/gJmz31JywM0?si=it4-egZKQE5ouQdi">https://youtu.be/gJmz31JywM0?si=it4-egZKQE5ouQdi</a><br><br>Cheers,<br>Jason</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 4:58 PM Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I just received an email from a team/company that makes a "lens for <br>
kubernetes". Email says something about excitement and a new version.<br>
<br>
We had a round table on kubernetes, when I showed lens. Few months later <br>
I needed it, and a new version already insisted on me having cloud <br>
account. I had to meticulously go through history to find the last <br>
release that allows you to use it as software, as expected.<br>
<br>
You don't even get Software from "Software as a Service" vendor. This <br>
obviousness is even in the name. When software eats the world, and it is <br>
your section that gets eaten, you want software to be yours. But with <br>
Software as a Service, it is not my software that attempts to eat my <br>
part of the world (e.g. control of my infrastructure). Instead of giving <br>
me Software, they attempt to fool me into subscribing to Service, <br>
resulting in me not getting Software.<br>
<br>
Software and a Service -- is what we look for.<br>
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