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<div dir="ltr">This is why I love self-hosting. If a free service
is in the cloud, there is still a cost to it. <br>
Eventually the bill comes due, and once it's popular enough and
you're locked in, they will start charging subscription fees.<br>
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<div>While software licenses can change such as recently with
Hashicorp Terraform, we've seen it happen both ways, like with
Elasticsearch and Kibana moving back to open source.</div>
<div>You have less chance of a rug pull or at least have some
control since you host it. The worst is that you won't
continue to get updates.<br>
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<div>The repo for Mirantis K8s Lens is still around but at the
bottom it shows that it was retired:<br>
<a href="https://github.com/lensapp/lens"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/lensapp/lens</a><br>
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<p>wow ... I didn't know they even went closed source.</p>
<p>Now, if anyone needs it, I have 4.2.2, latest no-cloud version,
git source repo and dmg/AppImage/exe trio. MIT and all.</p>
<p>This let's me appreciate a gazillion of mirrors for distro's,
cause what if some stop serving code. But similar mirroring must
be done for your dependencies. And mirroring of their own sources,
just in case.<br>
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<div>Info on when they went closed-source:
<div><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39811772"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39811772</a><br>
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As an alternative, check out K9s: <a
href="https://k9scli.io/" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://k9scli.io/</a><br>
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<p>This is in cli style.</p>
<p>Besides gui lens has this very useful option to bring a tunnel
from whatever you have inside you impenetrable cluster. I find it
incredibly useful: have postgre -> add pgadmin into cluster --
use when needed. Oh boy. It reduces stress when you need to look
into raw data, when bugs manifest, etc. So, I wonder if it has
this feature for sticking fingers into the machine.<br>
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<div>There is actually a CNCF Toronto event tomorrow where it
will be covered:<br>
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href="https://community.cncf.io/events/details/cncf-cloud-native-toronto-presents-october-toronto-cncf-meetup-end-user-stories/"
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Fun videos on this topic (the second one talks about some
self-hosting options):<br>
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Fireship - Paying for software is stupid… 10 free and
open-source SaaS replacements<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/e5dhaQm_J6U?si=EqFLR8LuRyrLc2Qf"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://youtu.be/e5dhaQm_J6U?si=EqFLR8LuRyrLc2Qf</a><br>
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<p>:) from video. Plane - Jira replacement, its a torture device for
developers, by developers :)<br>
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<div>Fireship - How To Make AWS Not Suck<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/gJmz31JywM0?si=it4-egZKQE5ouQdi"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://youtu.be/gJmz31JywM0?si=it4-egZKQE5ouQdi</a><br>
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<p>:) this video is graphic a bit<br>
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<div>Cheers,<br>
Jason</div>
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just received an email from a team/company that makes a "lens
for <br>
kubernetes". Email says something about excitement and a new
version.<br>
<br>
We had a round table on kubernetes, when I showed lens. Few
months later <br>
I needed it, and a new version already insisted on me having
cloud <br>
account. I had to meticulously go through history to find the
last <br>
release that allows you to use it as software, as expected.<br>
<br>
You don't even get Software from "Software as a Service"
vendor. This <br>
obviousness is even in the name. When software eats the world,
and it is <br>
your section that gets eaten, you want software to be yours.
But with <br>
Software as a Service, it is not my software that attempts to
eat my <br>
part of the world (e.g. control of my infrastructure). Instead
of giving <br>
me Software, they attempt to fool me into subscribing to
Service, <br>
resulting in me not getting Software.<br>
<br>
Software and a Service -- is what we look for.<br>
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