<div dir="ltr">I haven't set up SMS yet, but I have used Zoiper and with a VPN connection, everything seemed to work fine for audio.<div><br></div><div>Bitwarden has TOTP and Pasword management as well.<br><br>If someone else wants to do a FreePBX presentation, that would be a good topic... I've got a lot of other stuff I'm working on at the moment :)</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:19\u202fPM Anton Avramov via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-8632612276769544511"><div><div>Yes, SMS is very VERY insecure still, although they try to upgrade. </div><div><br></div><div>Here is more on the subject: <a href="https://youtu.be/wVyu7NB7W6Y?si=RjRG3TxX7OMwNsfD" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/wVyu7NB7W6Y?si=RjRG3TxX7OMwNsfD</a> </div><div><br></div><div>The problem is that some services doesn't give you other options :( </div><div>After watching the video I try to avoid them as much as I can and host my own instance of PassBolt.com which can store password and TOTP</div><div>Although storing both on the same place kind of defeats the purpose ;)</div><div><br></div><div>On Fri, 2025-04-04 at 18:02 -0400, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:2px solid rgb(114,159,207);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 4:24\u202fPM Giles Malet <<a href="mailto:gdmalet@gmail.com" target="_blank">gdmalet@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:2px solid rgb(114,159,207);padding-left:1ex"><div>On 04/04/2025 09:20, Anton Avramov via kwlug-disc wrote:<br>> Did you setup the SMS also?<br>> If so, did you ever try them for code verification?<br></div><div><br>I have a problem with banks etc. insisting on sending SMS verification <br>codes on login (because it is secure, hah!), but with a Koodo SIM card <br>that doesn't work anywhere other than Canada I'd be stuck while <br>travelling, which I do a lot. </div><br></blockquote><div><br><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">I fully agree with you Giles ... <br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">SMS is a lousy way for authentication, for all the reasons you mentioned.</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">And one more reason: criminals steal the SIM somehow (social engineering</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">with carrier staff, insider collusion, ...etc.).</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">They can take over anything that you used SMS for authentication.</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">I know someone whose SIM was stolen that way twice!<br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">The good thing is that some web sites and even the CRA are moving</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">to time-based one time passwords (TOTP). That means you can use</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">a app like FreeOTP+, as well as command line tools, such as oathtool.</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:2px solid rgb(114,159,207);padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:2px solid rgb(114,159,207);padding-left:1ex"><div>So, I give them a <a href="http://voip.ms" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">voip.ms</a> number, they <br>send the SMS, and <a href="http://voip.ms" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">voip.ms</a> sends me an e-mail, which I can easily receive <br>anywhere in the world, almost instantly, even on hotel wifi. I've been <br>doing this for years, and never had a problem (touch wood).<br></div><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">That is a good way to do it for the remaining stragglers.<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>kwlug-disc mailing list<br></div><div>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a><br></div><div>with the subject "unsubscribe", or email<br></div><div><a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span></span></div></div>
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