<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 4:24\u202fPM Giles Malet <<a href="mailto:gdmalet@gmail.com">gdmalet@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 04/04/2025 09:20, Anton Avramov via kwlug-disc wrote:<br>
> Did you setup the SMS also?<br>
> If so, did you ever try them for code verification?<br>
<br>
I have a problem with banks etc. insisting on sending SMS verification <br>
codes on login (because it is secure, hah!), but with a Koodo SIM card <br>
that doesn't work anywhere other than Canada I'd be stuck while <br>
travelling, which I do a lot. </blockquote><div><br><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">I fully agree with you Giles ... <br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">SMS is a lousy way for authentication, for all the reasons you mentioned.</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">And one more reason: criminals steal the SIM somehow (social engineering</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">with carrier staff, insider collusion, ...etc.).</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">They can take over anything that you used SMS for authentication.</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">I know someone whose SIM was stolen that way twice!<br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">The good thing is that some web sites and even the CRA are moving</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">to time-based one time passwords (TOTP). That means you can use</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">a app like FreeOTP+, as well as command line tools, such as oathtool.</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
</blockquote></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">So, I give them a <a href="http://voip.ms" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">voip.ms</a> number, they <br>
send the SMS, and <a href="http://voip.ms" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">voip.ms</a> sends me an e-mail, which I can easily receive <br>
anywhere in the world, almost instantly, even on hotel wifi. I've been <br>
doing this for years, and never had a problem (touch wood).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">That is a good way to do it for the remaining stragglers.<br></div><div><br></div></div></div>