<div dir="ltr"><div>I forgot that the Marrette is a Canadian invention.  Well, it makes sense since all the good things in life are Canadian!</div><div><br></div><div>I often see those Wago connectors when I buy a lighting kit, for example 4 pot lights in a kit would come with the Wagos.  They&#39;re neat, but honestly I don&#39;t trust them too far..  And they can be challenging to un-connect (in one case, I had to take a hammer to it)</div><div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 12 Sept 2025 at 00:48, Glenn Henshaw via kwlug-disc &lt;<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">  There are also \u201cwago connectors\u201d that don\u2019t require twisting. Essentially each wire is in its own cam lock contact. <div><br id="m_6544318656914434429m_1534428533383268446lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">   ... Glenn<div><br></div><div>Sent from my mobile. </div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 11, 2025, at 4:59\u202fPM, William Park via kwlug-disc &lt;<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">\ufeff

  
    
  
  
    GTALUG says, it&#39;s called &quot;Marrette&quot;, a Canadian invention, aka
    &quot;twist-on&quot;, &quot;twist cap&quot;, or &quot;wire nut&quot;.  Things I learn from LUG...<br>
    <br>
    I&#39;m looking at <a href="https://www.rona.ca/en/product/set-screw-wire-connector-wire-range-18-to-12-3-pack-0193056" target="_blank">https://www.rona.ca/en/product/set-screw-wire-connector-wire-range-18-to-12-3-pack-0193056</a>.<br>
    <br>
    That tool from Amazon... it twists the wires alright, but without
    axial tension, the result turns out like spaghetti.  That&#39;s why they
    always show 1 centre wire and other wires wrap around it.<br>
    <br>
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    <div>On 2025-09-11 08:40, CrankyOldBugger
      wrote:<br>
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        <div>Depends on what sort of wires we&#39;re talking about.  There&#39;s
          different methods for different gauges.</div>
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        <div>For household wires, i.e. 10-12-14 gauge, I used to just
          use Merrets and elbow grease.  Then one day I discovered a
          wire twisting tool on Amazon (<a href="https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08864972K" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08864972K</a>)
          that looks really slick.  I bought one, but of course, haven&#39;t
          had a need to use it yet..</div>
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        <div>For electronics wiring, i.e. 20 gauge or more (less?), I
          just old school it with hand-twisting and electrical tape.  I
          should learn to solder better.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 11 Sept 2025 at 02:51,
          Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc &lt;<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">From
          William. He attached a big JPG which made the message bounce.
          <br>
          <br>
          It looks like GTALUG may have answered his question, though?<br>
          <br>
          - Paul<br>
          <br>
          ----- Forwarded message from William Park &lt;<a href="mailto:opengeometry@yahoo.ca" target="_blank">opengeometry@yahoo.ca</a>&gt;
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          Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 14:46:53 -0400<br>
          From: William Park &lt;<a href="mailto:opengeometry@yahoo.ca" target="_blank">opengeometry@yahoo.ca</a>&gt;<br>
          To: KWLUG Discuss &lt;<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>&gt;,
          GTALUG Talk &lt;<a href="mailto:talk@lists.gtalug.org" target="_blank">talk@lists.gtalug.org</a>&gt;<br>
          Subject: (DIY topic) wire twisting adapter<br>
          <br>
          Since Linux guys are more DIY than Windows guys...<br>
          <br>
          What tool or adapter do you use to twist electrical wires?\ufffd I
          don&#39;t trust<br>
          those &quot;Wago&quot; connectors, because they only have 2 points of
          contact.\ufffd I<br>
          prefer to twist the wires for contact surface, and use wire
          cap connector to<br>
          hold the twisted end together.<br>
          <br>
          1.\ufffd I used to use linesman&#39;s pliers, as usual.\ufffd But, my wrists
          are not what<br>
          they used to be, and carpal tunnel and tennis elbow don&#39;t help
          either.\ufffd So,<br>
          I&#39;m looking for an easier way, more power tool way.<br>
          <br>
          2.\ufffd Amazon has lots under &quot;wire twisting tool&quot; search.\ufffd But,
          they don&#39;t grab<br>
          the wires and apply tension, so the twisted wires don&#39;t end up
          straight.\ufffd<br>
          Also, most adapters wrap wires around 1 centre wire, but
          that&#39;s not ideal for<br>
          &quot;wire cap connectors&quot;.<br>
          <br>
          3.\ufffd I made 2 adapters (pictures attached).\ufffd But, they don&#39;t
          apply tension, so<br>
          the twisted wired are not straight.\ufffd In fact, the results are
          ugly.<br>
          <br>
          4.\ufffd Right now, I am using drill chuck to hold the wires in
          tension. But, I&#39;m<br>
          looking for something lighter.<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
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