<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title></head><body><div>On Mon, Oct 6, 2025, at 16:30, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small;" class="qt-gmail_default"><div style="font-size:small;" class="qt-gmail_default">But the first entry of "wait online" is kind of suspicious.</div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div style="font-size:small;" class="qt-gmail_default">It may mean that 2 minutes of the current boot is wasted </div><div style="font-size:small;" class="qt-gmail_default">until the network is up (however that is assessed).</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't believe either the systemd or NetworkManager wait-online services are blocking for interactive sessions. The system may be interactive (at least on the console, but maybe not for ssh) by the time that completes.</div><div><br></div><div>Those services exist so that services can depend on them as a guarantee there is some or all network connectivity before starting. On laptops, that might be *after* you log in, and wifi can connect.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small;" class="qt-gmail_default"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div style="font-size:small;" class="qt-gmail_default">Great point. I have anecdotally noticed this over the years, but </div><div style="font-size:small;" class="qt-gmail_default">never got to measuring them, because once the server is live, </div><div style="font-size:small;" class="qt-gmail_default">the reboots are rare (sometimes we go 500 days without a reboot).<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div>Have you actually put eyes on the server's console while it's booting?</div><div><br></div><div>I have a server that takes about 5 minutes from power-on until it actually starts grub. I'm not sure systemd-analyze can pull firmware times from the system to identify pre-boot delays.</div><div><br></div><div id="sig91988184"><div class="signature">--</div><div class="signature"><b>Chris Irwin</b></div><div class="signature"><br></div><div class="signature"><span class="font" style="font-family:menlo, consolas, monospace, sans-serif;">email: <a href="mailto:chris@chrisirwin.ca">chris@chrisirwin.ca</a></span></div><div class="signature"><span class="font" style="font-family:menlo, consolas, monospace, sans-serif;"> web: <a href="https://chrisirwin.ca">https://chrisirwin.ca</a></span></div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div></body></html>