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    <p>In mentioning snaps, Mint actually said something against them a
      couple yes now, removing them, or not pushing them, and I install
      software without them. No snap-infestation on my boxes.</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2025-11-26 17:22, Ron Singh wrote:<br>
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            class="gmail_default">I use Mint's LMDE6/7 on 4 laptops
            running the shipped Cinnamon DE.</div>
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            class="gmail_default">I use Mint's LMDE6/7 on 5 laptops
            running XFCE for my work laptops.</div>
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            class="gmail_default">I use the Cinnamon units for YT caca
            at 2 different locations with a TV screen attached for the
            ease of use by non-technical people.</div>
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            class="gmail_default">I prefer LMDE to the stock Mint as I
            absolutely need properly-working &lt;hibernate&gt; and
            anything Ubuntu-based no longer gives me that since Ubuntu
            16.04.</div>
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            class="gmail_default">I prefer Appimages and Flatpaks to
            Snaps, so LMDE ftw for me.</div>
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            class="gmail_default">All laptops hail from late 2011(2nd
            Gen Intel-based X220, FrankenT520, W520) and 10th Gen
            Intel-based P17 Thinkpads from 2021.</div>
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            class="gmail_default">No surprises, no issues, no quirks. I
            have all the DE bling turned off and performance is
            excellent.</div>
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            class="gmail_default">Fractional scaling works quite well on
            stock LMDE6/7 on the P17 units which I needed to do as they
            are 4K 17" display. Old eyes here.</div>
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            class="gmail_default">18yo and 14yo HP(wired) and
            Brother(wireless) printers fully supported. </div>
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            class="gmail_default">Ancient 2008 Canon USB scanner fully
            supported. </div>
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            class="gmail_default">LMDE7 is running the 6.12 kernel, so
            support for later CPUs/GPUs should be decent I think.</div>
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            class="gmail_default">Cinnamon feels a bit lethargic
            compared to Xfce, but that should not come a surprise.</div>
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            class="gmail_default">I tried Zorin for the last 6 years on
            a play laptop, but since I detest Gnome with an unbridled
            passion and afaik Zorin is a rice'd up Gnome, I suppose my
            feedback on Zorin is valueless. </div>
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            class="gmail_default">Zorin was stable, all external bits
            supported, but the rice'd up Gnome seemed a bit stilted for
            me for some vague reason.</div>
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            class="gmail_default">Hope this is something here of value
            to you.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at
          3:39\u202fPM William Park via kwlug-disc &lt;<a
            href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" moz-do-not-send="true"
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          <div> (Double posted, so reply to your list)<br>
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            Anyone running Zorin OS or Linux Mint on real machine?  Any
            issues?<br>
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            I've been trying them out on VirtualBox, to see which one I
            should migrate to.<br>
            I can't decide.  They are about the same, in terms of
            stability.<br>
            <blockquote>- they crash about the same number of times
              (but, I think it's VirtualBox issue).  <br>
              - speed is about the same<br>
              - they're based on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (kernel 6.14).<br>
              - Zorin has its own desktop... it's okay.<br>
              - Mint has its own desktop, too... it's okay, too.</blockquote>
            So, I need real-life feedback... </div>
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