<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 7:51\u202fPM Chris Frey <<a href="mailto:cdfrey@foursquare.net">cdfrey@foursquare.net</a>> wrote:</div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Mon, Dec 01, 2025 at 05:49:01PM -0500, Jason Eckert wrote:<br>
> The reason I prefer this distribution very much mirrors why Linus does -<br>
> when you use it for a while, you'll appreciate how the Fedora project<br>
> ensures that everything is both seamless and flexible. For Linus, it's easy<br>
> to run his latest kernel without the distro making it difficult. For me,<br>
> it's easy to run new things that take a year or two to make their way into<br>
> other distros, and it just works perfectly.<br>
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"everything is both seamless and flexible"<br>
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Can you give a more detailed example?<br>
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It's been a long time since I tried Fedora, and coming from Debian,<br>
things felt subtly "wrong". :-) But I could have very well missed some<br>
winning underlying philosophy.</blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">To extrapolate a bit here on what Chris Frey alluded to ... </div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Those of us who use a Debian based distro with a rich well stocked repository </div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">can't imagine how we can go back to non-Debian based distros.</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Dependency management is a solved problem, and stability trump everything else. </div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">With Xubuntu (desktop) and Ubuntu Server (on headless machines), I choose</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">stability over having the latest stuff available, and therefore I go with the LTS </div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">release. This means if I install, say, 24.04, I know that I will have PHP 8.3 and</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">will stay with it for at least 2 years until the next LTS release. I can stay for up</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">to 5 years if I wanted. The idea here is that major upgrades are less frequent, </div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">and there are less disruptions from moving to one version of an application</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">to the next. </div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Fedora by design strives for the latest stuff, and therefore disruptions are </div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">expected. That is in addition to being non-Debian. </div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">As for snaps, Xubuntu and Ubuntu Server work fine without them (with the </div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">exception of LXD it seems).</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Once you get out of the mindset that Ubuntu = GNOME, you will realize</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">the appeal of the Ubuntu vast repositories, without snaps or GNOME. </div></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Khalid M. Baheyeldin</div></div>