<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Thanks for the warning.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">I think I'd best stick to bash since the aged don't adapt to change very well:-)!!</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div>
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On Wednesday, March 4th, 2026 at 12:20 PM, Doug Moen <doug@moens.org> wrote:<br>
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<div>zsh is a bit weird for someone used to bash. But you can just install the Debian zsh package and try it out without changing anything else in your system.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, Mar 4, 2026, at 8:08 PM, Alex Kleider via kwlug-disc wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Am I correct in assuming that zsh is an alternative to bash? </div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Not sure I'd want to change shells and run the risk of finding myself in very unfamiliar territory!</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;">a</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;" class="qt-protonmail_signature_block"><div class="qt-protonmail_signature_block-user"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);">Alex Kleider (set from my current gizmo)</div></div><div class="qt-protonmail_signature_block-proton qt-protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"><br></div><div class="qt-protonmail_quote"><div>On Wednesday, March 4th, 2026 at 8:52 AM, Jason Eckert <jason.eckert@gmail.com> wrote:</div><blockquote class="qt-protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div dir="ltr">That option doesn't work in bash's history built-in function. You'd have to use zsh instead.</div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote qt-gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Wed, 4 Mar 2026 at 11:37, Alex Kleider via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Doesn't seem to work on my Debian XFCE system (a release or two ago.)</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"><div><span>$ history -i</span></div><div><span>bash: history: -i: invalid option</span></div><div><span>history: usage: history [-c] [-d offset] [n] or history -anrw [filename] or history -ps arg [arg...]</span></div><div><br></div><div>Alex Kleider (set from my current gizmo)</div></div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"><br></div><div><div>On Wednesday, March 4th, 2026 at 6:02 AM, Jason Eckert <<a href="mailto:jason.eckert@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">jason.eckert@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>Like Raymond, the 'history -i' command has been my go-to for ages.</div><div>I switched to zsh long ago for aesthetic consistency... it matches zfs, zswap, etc\u2026 I\u2019m nothing if not alphabetically aligned.</div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Wed, 4 Mar 2026 at 08:52, Raymond Chen <<a href="mailto:raymondchen625@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">raymondchen625@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Very nice! BTW, in zsh it's `history -i`.</div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 4, 2026 at 8:37\u202fAM CrankyOldBugger <<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Nice one!</div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Wed, 4 Mar 2026 at 03:11, Chris Frey <<a href="mailto:cdfrey@foursquare.net" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">cdfrey@foursquare.net</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div>It turns out that by setting the environment variable HISTTIMEFORMAT</div><div> on startup to something like "%Y-%m-%dT%T " bash will both display</div><div> the timestamp of all commands when you use the 'history' command,</div><div> but also store the timestamps in the .bash_history file.</div><div> <br></div><div> Now I have an automatic trail of timed breadcrumbs in case I need it,</div><div> for all my shell work.</div><div> <br></div><div> Just passing along the tip.</div><div> <br></div><div> - Chris</div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> _______________________________________________</div><div> kwlug-disc mailing list</div><div> To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a></div><div> with the subject "unsubscribe", or email</div><div> <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.</div></blockquote></div><div>_______________________________________________</div><div> kwlug-disc mailing list</div><div> To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a></div><div> with the subject "unsubscribe", or email</div><div> <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.</div></blockquote></div><div>_______________________________________________</div><div> kwlug-disc mailing list</div><div> To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a></div><div> with the subject "unsubscribe", or email</div><div> <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>_______________________________________________</div><div> kwlug-disc mailing list</div><div> To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a></div><div> with the subject "unsubscribe", or email</div><div> <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.</div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><div>_______________________________________________</div><div>kwlug-disc mailing list</div><div>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a></div><div>with the subject "unsubscribe", or email</div><div><a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.</div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>
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