<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title></head><body><div>Thanks for mentioning Collabora.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Looks like Collabora Office (the new fork of LibreOffice) is already on flathub:</div><div><a href="https://flathub.org/en/apps/com.collaboraoffice.Office">https://flathub.org/en/apps/com.collaboraoffice.Office</a></div><div><br></div><div>Collabora Office is 429MiB, LibreOffice is 311MiB (on flathub).</div><div>The difference is that Collabora rips out the Java UI and replaces it with Javascript, sharing code with Collabora Online. Simplified UI with fewer settings, more modern UX. Maybe I'll try this out.<br></div><div><br></div><div>And Collabora Online is the open source web based version of Collabora Office.</div><div><a href="https://github.com/CollaboraOnline/online">https://github.com/CollaboraOnline/online</a></div><div><br></div><div>Doug.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Mon, Apr 6, 2026, at 3:13 AM, Ron wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div class="qt-moz-cite-prefix"><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;">Doug Moen
wrote on 2026-04-05 17:49:</span></div><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:4983cc36-f7a5-4835-aa62-ae5719f93c29@app.fastmail.com"><div><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;">Nextcloud Office includes an open
source web-based spreadsheet. Which I know nothing about. How
well does it support collaboration? <a href="https://nextcloud.com/office/" class="qt-moz-txt-link-freetext">https://nextcloud.com/office/</a></span></div></blockquote><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;">It works quite well, both with
integrating the Collabora office suite and with the OnlyOffice
suite.</span></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;">That is, in my experience, which is
mostly testing with a few collaborators on a spreadsheet.</span></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;"></span><br></p><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:4983cc36-f7a5-4835-aa62-ae5719f93c29@app.fastmail.com"><div><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;">Onlyoffice is a Russian thing.</span></div></blockquote><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;">There's some debate on this; whether
it's from Russia or by Russian speakers in... I forget which
country with a significant population of Russian speakers. Has
this been determined? And, does it matter if it's open source? I
don't know...</span></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;"></span><br></p><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:4983cc36-f7a5-4835-aa62-ae5719f93c29@app.fastmail.com"><div><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;">Another is Euro Office, which seems
to be at an early stage. It's a hostile fork of Onlyoffice
where they have removed the licence changes to the AGPL that
make it non-free, and the Russian owners are not happy. So
legally dubious; we'll see what happens. Sponsored by
NextCloud, Proton, and a bunch of other euro tech companies.</span></div><div><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;"><a href="https://github.com/Euro-Office" class="qt-moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/Euro-Office</a></span></div></blockquote><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;">This looks more promising than pure
OnlyOffice IMHO. With Nextcloud backing it, it stands a good
chance of easy setup.</span></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;"></span><br></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;">Looks like LibreOffice has decided to
work on a network based version of their product, which has the
Collabora folks unhappy as they're the main contributor to
LibreOffice.</span></p><aside class="qt-moz-card qt-url-replaced" style="width:600px;display:flex;align-items:center;justify-content:center;flex-direction:row;flex-wrap:wrap;border-top-left-radius:10px;border-top-right-radius:10px;border-bottom-right-radius:10px;border-bottom-left-radius:10px;border-top-width:1px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:silver;border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:silver;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:silver;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:silver;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;" id="qt-card-1775445212466"><div class="qt-card-pic" style="display:flex;flex-direction:column;flex-grow:1;flex-shrink:1;flex-basis:0%;"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:5px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:5px;"><img src="https://regmedia.co.uk/2020/01/06/europe_night_image.jpg" style="width:600px;" alt=""><br></div></div><div class="qt-card-content" style="display:flex;flex-direction:column;flex-grow:3;flex-shrink:1;flex-basis:0%;"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:1em;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:1em;"><p><small class="qt-site" style="font-weight:lighter;"><a class="qt-moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.theregister.com">www.theregister.com</a></small></p><p>Forking frenzy ensues after launch of
Euro-Office</p><p class="qt-description">: Meanwhile, Collabora splits from
LibreOffice Online amid claims TDF ejected 'all Collabora
staff and partners'</p><p><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/02/eurooffice_forks_onlyoffice/" class="qt-url" style="display:inline-block;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-thickness:auto;text-indent:-2ch;margin-inline-start:2ch;margin-inline-end:2ch;" title="www.theregister.com">\U0001f517
https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/02/eurooffice_forks_onlyoffice/</a></p></div></div></aside><p> </p><p><br></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;">The Document Foundation responded by
"firing" the Collabora people that worked there (this might be
slightly inaccurate, there are articles out there about it).</span></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;">Not looking good for either of them,
really. LibreOffice has the recognition and distribution in
repos, but no one is left to develop the online version.
Collabora has the dev skills but they build upon LibreOffice.</span></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Tomson Talks;">I hope this gets settled. Document
Foundation had agreed to not release an online version so as to
not step on Collabora's toes.</span></p><div>_______________________________________________</div><div>kwlug-disc mailing list</div><div>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a></div><div>with the subject "unsubscribe", or email</div><div><a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.</div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>