<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title></head><body><div><br></div><div>I said that because the previous version of this surveillance legislation was opposed by the Conservatives on the basis of privacy concerns. Now that the Liberals have a majority, they can just ram it through.</div><div><br></div><div>However, my statement was an emotional reaction that may have been ill considered and melodramatic.</div><div><br></div><div>I have almost 700 people in my email contacts list from just the last 5 years. I don't even know who a bunch of these people are, because I get included in various group emails. Some of those people may be social activists who are opposed to certain government policies. If any of those people become persons of interest to the government due to their political activity, then I become guilty by association. Even if I don't actually know the other person, I could still have my home invaded by the police.</div><div><br></div><div>The thing is, with email, even if I find perfectly secure and private hosting for my moens.org domain, the other 700 people will not have secure and private email, so the metadata and text of those emails will still be available to the surveillance state that the Liberals are setting up.</div><div><br></div><div>So I'm not sure that any of this matters.</div><div><br></div><div>Mikalai proposes to switch to secure and private protocols, but most of the people I associate with are not tech people, they only use email and facebook, and they will not switch to a different protocol. So it doesn't help me personally.</div><div><br></div><div>Doug.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, Apr 22, 2026, at 2:02 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small;" class="qt-gmail_default">Doug,</div><div style="font-size:small;" class="qt-gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:small;" class="qt-gmail_default">Can you please elaborate on this part: "<span class="size" style="font-size:small;"></span>Now that
the Liberals have a majority, Canada looks like an unsafe country for
hosting email"</div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:small;" class="qt-gmail_default">Why is that so?</div></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote qt-gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 2:27\u202fPM Doug Moen <<a href="mailto:doug@moens.org">doug@moens.org</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><u></u><br></div><div><div>I'm reconsidering my options for which commercial service I use to operate email services for my personal domain. <span class="size" style="font-size:small;"></span>Now that the Liberals have a majority, Canada looks like an unsafe country for hosting email (given that I am uninterested in operating my own SMTP server). Which is too bad, because I'd rather give my money to a Canadian business.</div><div><br></div><div>Proton is what I'm investigating right now.</div><div><br></div><div>Doug.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div>_______________________________________________</div><div>kwlug-disc mailing list</div><div>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a></div><div>with the subject "unsubscribe", or email</div><div><a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.</div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>