[kwlug-disc] What is all this about systemd?

[Khalid Baheyeldin]

Potentially.
But Debian is not just a code base. It is a vast repository of
software packages with people maintaining them.
Forking the software is easy. Forking the maintainers and community is
much harder.

There is also uselessd, which is a fork of systemd, keeping its good
parts (unit files, fast booting, ...etc.), while removing the
objectionable parts (binary log, replacing all daemons there are,
...etc.)

I would rather see systemd forked and the Debian developers supporting
"modern-init" as a virtual package stuff depends on, rather than see
Debian itself forked.

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:38 AM,  <chaslinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> Won't this just mean a fork of Debian?
> Blog: http://www.charlesmccolm.com/
> Sent from my cell phone.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com>
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> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:28:35
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> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] What is all this about systemd?
>
> This is troubling ...
>
> No one would mind systemd if it was replaceable by other init systems,
> and applications did not ask for it specifically, but "an init
> system".
>
> Now, even this is not possible in Debian ...
>
> Ian Jackson's Debian General Resolution to prevent init system
> coupling fails to pass
>
> http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/11/19/0826247
>
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Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. --   Leonardo da Vinci
For every complex problem, there is an answer that is clear, simple,
and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken