[kwlug-disc] What is all this about systemd?

[Chris Craig]

Is this in any way similar to when everyone jumped ship from XFree86
to X.Org? That happened without a significant amount of disruption,
IIRC. Or OpenOffice to LibreOffice, etal.
In the case of XFree86 and X.Org, they were both existing projects, I suppose.

On 19 November 2014 11:56, Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:
> Potentially.
> But Debian is not just a code base. It is a vast repository of
> software packages with people maintaining them.
> Forking the software is easy. Forking the maintainers and community is
> much harder.
>
> There is also uselessd, which is a fork of systemd, keeping its good
> parts (unit files, fast booting, ...etc.), while removing the
> objectionable parts (binary log, replacing all daemons there are,
> ...etc.)
>
> I would rather see systemd forked and the Debian developers supporting
> "modern-init" as a virtual package stuff depends on, rather than see
> Debian itself forked.
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:38 AM,  <chaslinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Won't this just mean a fork of Debian?
>> Blog: http://www.charlesmccolm.com/
>> Sent from my cell phone.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com>
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>> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:28:35
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>> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] What is all this about systemd?
>>
>> This is troubling ...
>>
>> No one would mind systemd if it was replaceable by other init systems,
>> and applications did not ask for it specifically, but "an init
>> system".
>>
>> Now, even this is not possible in Debian ...
>>
>> Ian Jackson's Debian General Resolution to prevent init system
>> coupling fails to pass
>>
>> http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/11/19/0826247
>>
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