[kwlug-disc] Devuan, a distro without systemd

[Digimer]

On 2017-07-31 09:43 PM, Dan Siemon wrote:
> I'll take the other side.
> 
> systemd is great and something like it was long overdue. I don't have a
> grey beard but I have used Linux as my desktop OS since '98 and have
> also maintained production servers since that time.
> 
> Without going into too much detail, here some reasons to like systemd:
> - Proper control of process shutdown. When systemd starts a daemon in a
> cgroup it is in total control to ensure the daemon shuts down
> completely.
> - Sane system environments for services. When systemd starts a process,
> the process gets a clean env, nothing leaks in from your current
> environment.
> - journalctl gives the ability to query logs in many ways. The journal
> annoyed me at the start too but now not being able to query logs seems
> quaint.
> - Declarative unit files are much easier to use and less bug prone than
> shell scripts. They are also more portable across distros.
> - Easy way to use security features like secomp[1] (simple directive in
> the unit file).
> 
> There are things I don't like but from my PoV, systemd is a clear
> improvement.
> 
> [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seccomp

I've started a ground-up rewrite of our company's application for EL7
and, so far, I'm soooo much happier with systemd. It's like, why didn't
this change happen ten years ago? Managing daemons alone has made it
worth the change. The logging, being able to filter by tags, timestamps
and what-not is amazing.

I was skeptical at first, until I started developing for it. Now I'd
never want to go back.

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