[kwlug-disc] msmtp email to gmail not landing - ideas?

Mark Steffen rmarksteffen at gmail.com
Thu Mar 30 13:46:53 EDT 2017


Try creating an authenticated user account and using SMTPAUTH if you are
not already when sending from the kwlug VPS.  The reverse DNS doesn't
matter as long as it matches to one of the forward A records.

Also check the gmail spam folder.  Sometimes Gmail junks my 'alert' type
emails.

*Mark Steffen*
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 1:06 PM, B. S. <bs27975 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I first tried mail.kwlug.org, got cert errors, changed to cpanel2, and
> that part got happy. (Authenticating via mail.kwlug.org id.)
>
> Yes, it's coming from the VPS.
>
> Curious it's only gmail unhappy.
>
> > we'll need to set reverse lookup DNS
> > for the IP (I can do that, just let me know what you want it set to).
>
> I can't say I know what it should be set to - mail.kwlug.org / drupal
> can't be impacted by this. These are all @kwlug.org (outgoing) addresses.
> There is no and never will be a mail server here - outgoing / notifications
> only.
>
> AFAIK, there can only be one reverse IP to name mapping. So it's not clear
> to me what to suggest. (It will never be able to get back, and I can't know
> what e-mail addresses might be used by other parts of the server later.
>
> -----
>
> Help me understand ... Linux boxes all over the world have (internal) mail
> baked in - even internal notifications work that way. It's only a small
> step from that to sending the notification externally, and @gmail has to be
> a frequent destination. Especially with dynamic ip addresses - everybody
> can't set their reverse ip! Huh? (Grumble, at gmail, not you.)
>
> [Let alone direct send to cpanel2 from Thunderbird identity just worked.
> Which wasn't from the vps.]
>
>
> On 03/30/2017 12:38 PM, Mark Steffen wrote:
>
>> It's authenticated and relaying through cpanel2.indieserve.net
>> <http://cpanel2.indieserve.net>?  If so, should be fine.  If you were
>> sending it directly from the VPS we'll need to set reverse lookup DNS
>> for the IP (I can do that, just let me know what you want it set to).
>>
>> *Mark Steffen*
>> Office Direct: +1.226.476.1240 | Mobile/WhatsApp: +1.226.600.0464
>> /"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet." -Abraham Lincoln/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:00 PM, B.S. <bs27975.2 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:bs27975.2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     So on a Debian Jessie machine, I'm trying to get system notification
>>     mail messages out to real e-mail so I actually find out something
>>     happened. Like an unattended-upgrade failure.
>>
>>     I understand that default installs auto install localhost mail
>>     facilities only. So I've installed msmtp and it's largely entirely
>>     working.
>>
>>     However, e-mail to gmail accounts never seem to land. @live.ca
>>     <http://live.ca> just works, instantly even. Yahoo and another
>>     non-gmail provider too.
>>
>>     In all cases, cpanel2.indieserve.net <http://cpanel2.indieserve.net>
>>     swallows up the message without error.
>>
>>     Just nothing ever arrives when sent to @gmail.com <http://gmail.com>.
>>
>>     Anyone have any ideas?
>>
>>     Or is this something needing configuration on mail.kwlug.org
>>     <http://mail.kwlug.org>, like DKIM, or some other bizarreness?
>>
>>     Thanks for any thoughts.
>>
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