[kwlug-disc] Linux & Linux admin for newbies
James Kelsh
freshmeadow1 at gmail.com
Fri Jan 19 16:55:54 EST 2018
Hi Ron. I plan on keeping it simple. I am going to go through an Ubuntu 16.04.3 installation from my dvd and after showing the Unity desktop, I am going to install the Gnome desktop onto it like I do for my own machines. To much choice in desktop environments may be overwhelming.
I can mention Mate, LXDE, XFCE etc. and show screenshots from the web maybe, but I will keep it simple and direct.
Having the X220 for a dry run would be great.
I may also do an install of openSUSE on my laptop in VMWare to show both a VM install and another Linux distribution.
Jim
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From: Ron Singh
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Yup, I will be at the Feb meet.
I think it might be wise to get the X220 to you before the meeting so that you can do a dry run of the install and make sure all is good before doing the live install at KWLUG's Feb meet? I am in Waterloo and can meet up wherever to hand off the laptop.
I wonder, since most folks really interact with a PC's desktop environment and browsers, would it be prudent to mebbe stuff a 500G HDD in the laptop so that you could have multiple installs of Linux, simply for a presenter to showcase the pros/cons of various desktop environments?
I cannot justify(afford) storage any greater than a 128G SSD or a 500G 7200RPM WD Black HDD, and I think a 128G SSD might be tight if one wanted around 4 installs to show off Xfce, Mate, Cinnamon, Gnome3, or LXDE etc.
Rambling on a bit further, I wonder if I should not just leave the X220 without whoever will be doing any sort of presenting and who might be reluctant to mess with their own hardware, perhaps that person would benefit from a beater laptop?
Thanks,
Ron Singh
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On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:24 PM, James Kelsh <freshmeadow1 at gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Ron, it will help! That way I font have to overwrite my existing Ubuntu installation!!!!!
Will you be at the February meeting? We can talk there.
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On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Ron Singh <ronsingh149 at gmail.com> wrote:
Jim, I can lend an X220 laptop with 8G and an SSD(to reduce install time and make the presentation go a bit faster) for the bare-metal install if this help in anyway.
Thanks,
Ron Singh
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On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:14 AM, James Kelsh <freshmeadow1 at gmail.com> wrote:
I would be happy to do it in March. I am thinking to include installation on bare metal from a dvd, USB stick, and maybe dual booting and installing
from an iso in a VM too.
Let's talk further at the February meeting.
Jim
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> On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:24 PM, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
>
>
> That would be fantastic. Could you slot your presentation in March?
>
> - Paul
>
>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 08:18:31PM -0500, James Kelsh wrote:
>> Hello all. I have been away for a while because I started teaching at Conestoga College and depending on what school you are in it takes over your life. Anyway, the beginner sessions sound like a great idea! I know I could still benefit as I do not work with Linux but have been using it for some time.
>> I would be happy to give a short talk on how to install Linux on a laptop.
>> I did give 2 talks in the past, one on Knoppix and the other on converting an OEM installation of Windows 7 into a virtual machine using disk2vhd and running it under Ubuntu.
>> Just a thought.
>> Anyway, hope to see everyone at the February meeting.
>> Jim Kelsh
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 4:14 PM, Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What if, in order to help improve on attendance we do a beginners portion and a deep dive portion of the KWLUG rather then just exclusively the 2 hour format where its all heavy from start to finish we try to have a beginner section from 7 where we cover some light stuff and then go into a deep dive in the second half. This way we can bring more rookies into the fold.
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:25 AM Andrew Sullivan Cant <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>>> Robert Elder was also running a Linux basics meetup last year, but has
>>>> not run any events yet this year:
>>>> https://www.meetup.com/Intro-to-Linux-Command-line-C-Programming/
>>>>
>>>> He also has some Linux how to material on his own website:
>>>> https://www.robertelder.org/
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 16/01/18 22:06, Joan Currie wrote:
>>>>> I'd like that as well. Cheers, Joan.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:06 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com
>>>>> <mailto:bjonkman at sobac.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think a presentation on GNU/Linux file systems is a great idea!
>>>>> Always good to go back to basics sometimes
>>>>>
>>>>> --Bob
>>>>>
>>>>> On January 16, 2018 3:34:55 PM EST, Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:chamunks at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If its a noobie meetup covering the Linux filesystem and things
>>>>> like that could really help get peoples head around things its
>>>>> logical to us veterans but it might help to discuss the
>>>>> differences between the major distros and some of the history etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:17 AM CrankyOldBugger
>>>>> <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com <mailto:crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 on the edX course...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 at 03:08 Sandeep Johri
>>>>> <sandeepjohri at rogers.com <mailto:sandeepjohri at rogers.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd also suggest joining the free Introduction to Linux
>>>>> course on EdX. I found it helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Sandeep
>>>>>
>>>>> From:
>>>>> Sandeep Johri
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15/01/18 01:01 PM, peter_melse at gto.net
>>>>> <mailto:peter_melse at gto.net> wrote:
>>>>>> DevOps talk suggestions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> configuration management (puppet, chef, ansible, salt,
>>>>>> etc.)
>>>>>> automated deployment (satellite, the foreman)
>>>>>> patch management (aptly, landscape, and the rhel
>>>>>> equivalents?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> *Subject:* [kwlug-disc] Linux & Linux admin for newbies
>>>>>> *Date:* Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:18:10 -0500
>>>>>> *From:* <jvj at golden.net> <mailto:jvj at golden.net>
>>>>>> *To:* kwlug <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
>>>>>> <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
>>>>>> *Reply-To:* KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
>>>>>> <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux & Linux admin for newbies
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In last week's meeting an attendee was self described
>>>>>> as a Linux newbie and explained that Linux admin was
>>>>>> an interest.
>>>>>> As I identified with the "newbie" aspect I gave the
>>>>>> attendee a short list of topics to study.
>>>>>> This list (somewhat modified) follows - and shows that
>>>>>> I am somewhat dated.
>>>>>> And I invite the members to copy and and add to this
>>>>>> list to help other new newbies who might subscribe to
>>>>>> these discussions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *IX == UNIX (history)
>>>>>> (with reference to Tim's recap of last week.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Command Line Input aka CLI
>>>>>> Terminal
>>>>>> Screen
>>>>>> Shell & BASH Shell
>>>>>> BASH scripting
>>>>>> tar
>>>>>> ssh
>>>>>> gnome
>>>>>> unity
>>>>>> gnome vs unity
>>>>>> text editors: vi & vim & [other]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux admin (aka DevOps)
>>>>>> I have nothing to add here - and am looking for topics.
>>>>>> (hint: I go back to fsck)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JohnJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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