[kwlug-disc] Linux & Linux admin for newbies

Andrew Sullivan Cant acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca
Mon Jan 22 16:40:22 EST 2018 

#notalkisredundant

I think that repeating topics is important. On topic with this thread
there are always new people to get started.
Or people who already know the topic to get a new perspective.
Or to give people who know a little, that extra bump to get started on a
new project!

For example, I do not reinstall my laptop very often and I appreciate
that you are going to show off that process.

Andrew

On 22/01/18 09:07, James Kelsh wrote:
> I agree. And my talk is in March. Got mixed up last night!!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:
>>
> James Kelsh wrote:
>>>> My little talk in February seems redundant now
> 
> Hardly. There's nothing like a live demonstrations where you can ask
> about things as they happen.
> 
> Looking forward to it.
> 
> --Bob.
> 
>>>> On 2018-01-21 08:07 PM, James Kelsh wrote:
>>>> My little talk in February seems redundant now 🤔 but I am doing
>>>> it anyway!!! 😜
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 21, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Andrew Sullivan Cant 
>>>>> <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On the topic of money and getting started with Linux I just saw
>>>>> a tweet from Marcel Gagné that he has started a Patreon to
>>>>> support his linux video tutorial efforts: * 
>>>>> https://www.patreon.com/marcelgagne
>>>>>
>>>>> His videos are online at a few places and cover a range of 
>>>>> topics: * http://cookingwithlinux.com/ * 
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/freethinkeratlarge
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20/01/18 01:57, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote: (I
>>>>>> thought I sent this already, but I guess not. Apologies if it
>>>>>> is a duplicate.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is a generous offer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There may be a call for people to help KWLUG financially if we 
>>>>>> cannot get a free meeting space for our new home.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are also other items that I have been thinking about 
>>>>>> fundraising for. It would be nice to get a better projector, 
>>>>>> for example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But none of this directly relates to your offer. I think that 
>>>>>> if you as an individual was to arrange for some KWLUG speakers 
>>>>>> then that could work, but it would be you who makes the 
>>>>>> financial arrangements (because as Chamunks noted KWLUG does 
>>>>>> not officially exist). Once you have somebody arranged I (or 
>>>>>> another organizer) can slot that presenter in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep in mind that in addition to finding people who know how
>>>>>> to do Linux administration, we would want to bring in people
>>>>>> who also have skills at doing presentations for others. Robert 
>>>>>> Elder might qualify for this, but I think arbitrary people on 
>>>>>> UpWork would need more vetting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having said that, I think there are MANY people on this list 
>>>>>> who have the knowledge and talent to offer some really good 
>>>>>> newbie training, either during meetings or as a separate
>>>>>> event. I would love to see a few more offers from people
>>>>>> willing to present Linux basics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree that getting newbies out to meetings is a challenge. 
>>>>>> Sometimes people come for a few sessions, and then leave 
>>>>>> because the talks people are willing to offer are at too high
>>>>>> a technical level (or maybe we are unfriendly in other ways).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John got us started on a list of topics, but it is not clear
>>>>>> to me which ones are in demand, or are most useful in 2018.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am guessing these will be incorporated into regular KWLUG 
>>>>>> meetings, as opposed to being separate events?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:14:00AM -0500, Ron Singh wrote: 
>>>>>>> Here's my 2 cents, not sure how it will be received.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See, I value what I have gained thus from the KWLUG meets I 
>>>>>>> have attended, the topics discussed on the mailing list, and 
>>>>>>> tangentially, the information gleaned from a single(so far) 
>>>>>>> KWVoip meetup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the spirit of giving back, I am able to pony up to $50 per
>>>>>>> session(month?) to someone from outside of KWLUG, or $400/yr
>>>>>>> to KWLUG towards expenses(essentially a sponsorship). I can
>>>>>>> also support KWLUG via donations of older(but not *old*)
>>>>>>> computer hardware as it becomes available to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the $50/session thing does not contradict the spirit of 
>>>>>>> KWLUG, I would like to make contact with a few individuals 
>>>>>>> here -- 
>>>>>>> https://www.upwork.com/local/canada/ontario/waterloo/linux-system-administration/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
> and see if they would be amenable to doing a 60-minute segment for newbies
>>>>>>> and live with a mere $50(or less) fee for the talk and
>>>>>>> travel time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see a couple of UPWORK low-cost younglings here and here: 
>>>>>>> https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~01be403b78b96c7860/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
> https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~01ae67e5ea9c1e9763/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and a more seasoned UPWORK dude here: 
>>>>>>> https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~015d41ca163d109259/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
> How about Robert Elder?
>>>>>>> http://blog.robertelder.org/robert-elder-software-linux-operating-system/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
> He is quite the CLI guy.
>>>>>>> I attended one of his meetings on SSH where I got about 30% 
>>>>>>> of the ideas and logic being discussed. Should I contact him 
>>>>>>> on behald of KWLUG to see if he is willing to do a talk on 
>>>>>>> CLI commands. He is definitely not a GUI guy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternatively, I donate a year's worth of sessions to KWLUG 
>>>>>>> and everyone chimes in with suggestions/contact they have to 
>>>>>>> do talks for newbies. I see one big challenge though and
>>>>>>> that is how to grab all the newbies by the scruff and drag
>>>>>>> them into the KWLUG meetings to benefir from the newbie
>>>>>>> sessions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am just throwing this out there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ron Singh "in transit, via mobile comm device"
>>>>>>
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