[kwlug-disc] Linux & Linux admin for newbies

James Kelsh freshmeadow1 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 22 17:02:35 EST 2018 

OK!!!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 22, 2018, at 4:40 PM, Andrew Sullivan Cant <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> 
> #notalkisredundant
> 
> I think that repeating topics is important. On topic with this thread
> there are always new people to get started.
> Or people who already know the topic to get a new perspective.
> Or to give people who know a little, that extra bump to get started on a
> new project!
> 
> For example, I do not reinstall my laptop very often and I appreciate
> that you are going to show off that process.
> 
> Andrew
> 
>> On 22/01/18 09:07, James Kelsh wrote:
>> I agree. And my talk is in March. Got mixed up last night!!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> James Kelsh wrote:
>>>>> My little talk in February seems redundant now
>> 
>> Hardly. There's nothing like a live demonstrations where you can ask
>> about things as they happen.
>> 
>> Looking forward to it.
>> 
>> --Bob.
>> 
>>>>> On 2018-01-21 08:07 PM, James Kelsh wrote:
>>>>> My little talk in February seems redundant now 🤔 but I am doing
>>>>> it anyway!!! 😜
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Andrew Sullivan Cant 
>>>>>> <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On the topic of money and getting started with Linux I just saw
>>>>>> a tweet from Marcel Gagné that he has started a Patreon to
>>>>>> support his linux video tutorial efforts: * 
>>>>>> https://www.patreon.com/marcelgagne
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> His videos are online at a few places and cover a range of 
>>>>>> topics: * http://cookingwithlinux.com/ * 
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/freethinkeratlarge
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 20/01/18 01:57, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote: (I
>>>>>>> thought I sent this already, but I guess not. Apologies if it
>>>>>>> is a duplicate.)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That is a generous offer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There may be a call for people to help KWLUG financially if we 
>>>>>>> cannot get a free meeting space for our new home.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are also other items that I have been thinking about 
>>>>>>> fundraising for. It would be nice to get a better projector, 
>>>>>>> for example.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But none of this directly relates to your offer. I think that 
>>>>>>> if you as an individual was to arrange for some KWLUG speakers 
>>>>>>> then that could work, but it would be you who makes the 
>>>>>>> financial arrangements (because as Chamunks noted KWLUG does 
>>>>>>> not officially exist). Once you have somebody arranged I (or 
>>>>>>> another organizer) can slot that presenter in.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Keep in mind that in addition to finding people who know how
>>>>>>> to do Linux administration, we would want to bring in people
>>>>>>> who also have skills at doing presentations for others. Robert 
>>>>>>> Elder might qualify for this, but I think arbitrary people on 
>>>>>>> UpWork would need more vetting.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Having said that, I think there are MANY people on this list 
>>>>>>> who have the knowledge and talent to offer some really good 
>>>>>>> newbie training, either during meetings or as a separate
>>>>>>> event. I would love to see a few more offers from people
>>>>>>> willing to present Linux basics.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I agree that getting newbies out to meetings is a challenge. 
>>>>>>> Sometimes people come for a few sessions, and then leave 
>>>>>>> because the talks people are willing to offer are at too high
>>>>>>> a technical level (or maybe we are unfriendly in other ways).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John got us started on a list of topics, but it is not clear
>>>>>>> to me which ones are in demand, or are most useful in 2018.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am guessing these will be incorporated into regular KWLUG 
>>>>>>> meetings, as opposed to being separate events?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Paul
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:14:00AM -0500, Ron Singh wrote: 
>>>>>>>> Here's my 2 cents, not sure how it will be received.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> See, I value what I have gained thus from the KWLUG meets I 
>>>>>>>> have attended, the topics discussed on the mailing list, and 
>>>>>>>> tangentially, the information gleaned from a single(so far) 
>>>>>>>> KWVoip meetup.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In the spirit of giving back, I am able to pony up to $50 per
>>>>>>>> session(month?) to someone from outside of KWLUG, or $400/yr
>>>>>>>> to KWLUG towards expenses(essentially a sponsorship). I can
>>>>>>>> also support KWLUG via donations of older(but not *old*)
>>>>>>>> computer hardware as it becomes available to me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If the $50/session thing does not contradict the spirit of 
>>>>>>>> KWLUG, I would like to make contact with a few individuals 
>>>>>>>> here -- 
>>>>>>>> https://www.upwork.com/local/canada/ontario/waterloo/linux-system-administration/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>> and see if they would be amenable to doing a 60-minute segment for newbies
>>>>>>>> and live with a mere $50(or less) fee for the talk and
>>>>>>>> travel time.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I see a couple of UPWORK low-cost younglings here and here: 
>>>>>>>> https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~01be403b78b96c7860/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>> https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~01ae67e5ea9c1e9763/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> and a more seasoned UPWORK dude here: 
>>>>>>>> https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~015d41ca163d109259/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>> How about Robert Elder?
>>>>>>>> http://blog.robertelder.org/robert-elder-software-linux-operating-system/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>> He is quite the CLI guy.
>>>>>>>> I attended one of his meetings on SSH where I got about 30% 
>>>>>>>> of the ideas and logic being discussed. Should I contact him 
>>>>>>>> on behald of KWLUG to see if he is willing to do a talk on 
>>>>>>>> CLI commands. He is definitely not a GUI guy.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Alternatively, I donate a year's worth of sessions to KWLUG 
>>>>>>>> and everyone chimes in with suggestions/contact they have to 
>>>>>>>> do talks for newbies. I see one big challenge though and
>>>>>>>> that is how to grab all the newbies by the scruff and drag
>>>>>>>> them into the KWLUG meetings to benefir from the newbie
>>>>>>>> sessions.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am just throwing this out there.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ron Singh "in transit, via mobile comm device"
>>>>>>> 
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