[kwlug-disc] Matrix clients
Gary Walsh
gwalsh at notw.ca
Sat Jun 18 15:12:56 EDT 2022
It doesn't matter how good these systems are if you can't persuade every person and organization to switch to them, so you still have to maintain a presence on FB, Twitter, etc. because that is where most people are. The result is you end up having to follow more social media systems rather than just switching.
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Gary Walsh
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Jun 18, 2022, 08:04 by doug at moens.org:
> Matrix and IRC are decentralized chat rooms.
> Mastodon is decentralized Twitter.
> Diaspora is decentralized Facebook.
> Peertube is decentralized YouTube.
> There are a bunch more.
>
> All the programs I just mentioned use a type of decentralization called Federation. There is a client-server architecture, but you can choose a server, or run your own. For example, in Matrix or IRC, multiple servers can participate in a single chat room. In Mastodon, you can follow people on your own server, or on other servers.
>
> The universe of federated social media services is called the Fediverse.
>
> Other architectures for decentralization: peer to peer, and Blockchain.
>
> IPFS is a peer to peer alternative to HTTP. Internally, it's like a mashup of BitTorrent and git. Files are identified by hashes and are downloaded from the nearest peer rather than a centralized server.
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> A Merkle Tree is a data structure used by many decentralized systems, including Blockchain, Git, IPFS, Matrix. It is essentially a tree of hashes.
>
> A Blockchain is a decentralized, publicly viewable, append-only database or ledger. It doesn't have to be used for cryptocurrency, you can store anything in a blockchain. Like NFTs. NFTs were originally intended to be decentralized Patreon, where you can donate to an artist and have a Blockchain record of your donation. Then NFTs were co-opted by grifters, who created a market for NFTs, based on the false claim that you were "buying" an artwork. Actually you are buying a character string containing a URL that points to an art work. If the URL stops working, maybe your NFT becomes worthless.
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> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, at 1:10 AM, Chris Frey wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 10:41:25PM -0400, Doug Moen wrote:
>>
>>> Matrix is real time chat, like a modern version of IRC. Conversations take
>>> place in specific "rooms".
>>>
>>> Mastodon is decentralized twitter. You are broadcasting short messages to all
>>> of the people who follow your message stream.
>>>
>>
>> I think Matrix is also supposed to be decentralized too, if
>> I understand correctly.
>>
>> - Chris
>>
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