[kwlug-disc] Matrix clients

[CrankyOldBugger]

I hear you, Gary, but some of us, myself included, quit Facebook years
ago.  If people on FB want to get hold of me, they can use other methods
like email or even LinkedIn.

I'm not maintaining a presence on FB, or TikTok, or Instagram for anyone's
benefit.  People who might ever need to contact me are most likely in this
email thread!


On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 3:14 PM Gary Walsh via kwlug-disc <
kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:

> It doesn't matter how good these systems are if you can't persuade every
> person and organization to switch to them, so you still have to maintain a
> presence on FB, Twitter, etc. because that is where most people are. The
> result is you end up having to follow more social media systems rather than
> just switching.
>
> --
> Gary Walsh
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>
>
> Jun 18, 2022, 08:04 by doug at moens.org:
>
> Matrix and IRC are decentralized chat rooms.
> Mastodon is decentralized Twitter.
> Diaspora is decentralized Facebook.
> Peertube is decentralized YouTube.
> There are a bunch more.
>
> All the programs I just mentioned use a type of decentralization called
> Federation. There is a client-server architecture, but you can choose a
> server, or run your own. For example, in Matrix or IRC, multiple servers
> can participate in a single chat room. In Mastodon, you can follow people
> on your own server, or on other servers.
>
> The universe of federated social media services is called the Fediverse.
>
> Other architectures for decentralization: peer to peer, and Blockchain.
>
> IPFS is a peer to peer alternative to HTTP. Internally, it's like a mashup
> of BitTorrent and git. Files are identified by hashes and are downloaded
> from the nearest peer rather than a centralized server.
>
> A Merkle Tree is a data structure used by many decentralized systems,
> including Blockchain, Git, IPFS, Matrix. It is essentially a tree of hashes.
>
> A Blockchain is a decentralized, publicly viewable, append-only database
> or ledger. It doesn't have to be used for cryptocurrency, you can store
> anything in a blockchain. Like NFTs. NFTs were originally intended to be
> decentralized Patreon, where you can donate to an artist and have a
> Blockchain record of your donation. Then NFTs were co-opted by grifters,
> who created a market for NFTs, based on the false claim that you were
> "buying" an artwork. Actually you are buying a character string containing
> a URL that points to an art work. If the URL stops working, maybe your NFT
> becomes worthless.
>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, at 1:10 AM, Chris Frey wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 10:41:25PM -0400, Doug Moen wrote:
>
> Matrix is real time chat, like a modern version of IRC. Conversations take
> place in specific "rooms".
>
> Mastodon is decentralized twitter. You are broadcasting short messages to
> all
> of the people who follow your message stream.
>
>
> I think Matrix is also supposed to be decentralized too, if
> I understand correctly.
>
> - Chris
>
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